RCBS 35-200 (35 Rem bullet) in 350 Legend?

[brewer12345]

I am guessing this would work reasonably well, but I also know that 350 is a little wonky to load. Any tips on this one? I imagine sizing down may be interesting depending on how big my mold throws them.

[NSB]

It may work, but the diameter of the .35 Rem is .358 and the 350 Legend is .355

[high standard 40]

It may work, but the diameter of the .35 Rem is .358 and the 350 Legend is .355

I'm finding conflicting information about this. Some sources say .355" and others say .357".

[brewer12345]

I'm finding conflicting information about this. Some sources say .355" and others say .357".

As with all cast loadings, you experiment with your rifle and see what it likes. The bolt action I am fooling with likes .357 in cast.

[garandsrus]

I load the 35-200 in a 350 Legend bolt action. The bullet feeds fine and it is seated to where it chambers with no resistance. Shoots great…

[armednfree]

What's the load on that garandrus?

[high standard 40]

As with all cast loadings, you experiment with your rifle and see what it likes. The bolt action I am fooling with likes .357 in cast.

I don't have a 350 Legend. I was referring to published technical dimensions from different sources as to what the standard jacketed bullet diameter is for this cartridge. I've seen some say it's .355' and others say it's .357".

[mehavey]

SAAMI for the 357 Mag is 0.355" groove
But most rifles are 0.357/358" (non-SAAMI/go figure)

The LEGEND holds to SAAMi for the rifle ()
But LEGEND chambers may permit up to 0.358" Cast w/o a problem

For jacketed, my experience has shown sizing down (via Lee) to 0.356" producing predictable and excellent results

[cwlongshot]

My all time FAVORITE bullet for my Legend Bolt is the MP 359-200hp. Its a direct copy if the RCBS/NOE/LEE bullet only with HP Pins. I have taken two deer and get very very good accuracy. Unfortunately, I was lent this mold and have not as yet been able to Purchase my own. Thank you to Tommeboy for the use of yours brother!!

I have all three if the others and like the LEE/NOE better as both have larger meplat then the RCBS. Id also prefer a NON GC mold when I do buy as with powder coating at these velocities its flat not needed.

I size .356 as none of the FOUR I have had on hand would chamber even a .357 bullet seated.

CW

[cwlongshot]

I'm finding conflicting information about this. Some sources say .355" and others say .357".

Its .355, any one saying different is mistaken or miss informed.

There is some making them with larger bores. But spec are a (9x47). Winchester is PLAYING GAMES cause they was IGNORANT/ ARROGANT and got called as states like Ohio SPECIFY .357. So they play games with the .003 variation to sammi drawings to get there caliber allowed. Then all the folks who know better abd assummed Winchester did as well. (Assuming .357/.358)

But here we are two years in and the COMPLETE AND TOTAL lack of a .355 rifle bullet is a thing if the past. Today there are a number of manufacturers offering proper .355/.356 RIFLE bullets. Of coarse us casters never have had issue as we make any diameter we need.

CW

[mehavey]

I size .356 as none of the FOUR I have had on hand would chamber even a .357 bullet seated.

This is where people get in trouble. Note the extremely short freebore/throat, where
exposed .357" shanks & fat ogives can hang up unless seated to accommodate

[cwlongshot]

Hello Brother, you know as well as I that that is NOT always a proper answer. You can inhibit feeding, severely encroaching upon powder capacity and over all cartridge preformance.

Proper bullet fitment is what a good re loader knows is part and parcel to a accurate preforming load.

CW

[mehavey]

You can inhibit feeding, severely encroaching upon powder
capacity and over all cartridge performance.

Chat with me some more on that.
By definition, if it fails to chamber, or sticks upon chambering, or gives wildly increased velocities, or begins to expand primer pockets... or starts leaving pressure marks on the brass... we have a problem.

But -- with those caveats -- I've found:
- Cast is very forgiving/likes the larger bullets
- Jacketed has no problem when sized to 0.356
- That throat gets people in quite a lot of trouble if they aren't aware and plan for it.
- Don't even think about Lil'Gun or H110/W296

[cwlongshot]

Simply stated, Cast aint jacketed and seating into throat/rifling goes hand in hand with better accuracy and not nearly the raise in pressures one would have if using a jacketed. Would have thought you knew this.

I always use largest cast bullet that fits.

Lil gun isnt in my vocabulary. H110/296 are fine.

CW

[mehavey]

Cast ain't jacketed and seating into throat/rifling goes hand in hand with better accuracy
and not nearly the raise in pressures one would have if using a jacketed.
Would have thought you knew this.

Uuuuuh... Isn't that what I just said ?

But -- with those caveats -- I've found:
- Cast is very forgiving/likes the larger bullets
- Jacketed has no problem when sized to 0.356

As to cast/fitment, take a look at these three bullets -- all specifically "fitted" to the freebore/throat design
https://i.postimg.cc/BvmysqqS/350-Le...rma-200-sm.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/bw7J0YPq/350-Le...ECO-LEE-sm.jpg

[high standard 40]

Simply stated, Cast aint jacketed and seating into throat/rifling goes hand in hand with better accuracy and not nearly the raise in pressures one would have if using a jacketed.

I always use largest cast bullet that fits.



CW

This has been my finding as well. I have a 7mm with a .284" groove that likes a .287" bullet.

[brewer12345]

Why no Lil gun? Too spiky? What if you start at a below minimum charge?

[mehavey]

Unpredictable results in the AR platform.
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...=1#post5311081

[brewer12345]

Unpredictable results in the AR platform.
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...=1#post5311081

Strange. Well, he only other powder I have that there seems to be data for is 2400, so perhaps I will work with that.

[cwlongshot]

There are a number of other powders!!

Most are new/not as common.

I have not used 2400 in 350. No readon it would t work I can think of. But it is dirty.

300MP, 1680, AA9 are some that immediately come to mind. I also freely use H110/296 and have never had reason not to.

As Moleman mentions this caliber has attracted many newbies. Both shooters hunters and especially Reloaders. So I feel this is a contributing factor here.

CW