Anyone loading the NOE 225 61 RN in the .222

[kiwi]

Hi Guys, As the title says, I have a Remington 722 in .222 look for a HP mold the NOE is just what I want
but will it stabilise in the 1:14" twist,
I really want a HP bullet of at least 50 grains, I also have a 1:8" .223 but prefer the .222 for cast bullets.

[jim147]

I haven't shot any lead in my .222 yet. I have the same rifle. It is a tackdriver with 50 grain varmit soft points. I have some 55 grain cast up for it but due to illness haven't had time to work up a load.

I look forward to seeing how this goes.

[fcvan]

I don't have a 222 nor a NOE 61. I have a .223 with 1 - 12" twist and the NOE 225-62 RN designed plain based for powder coating. My loads for 1 - 9" and 1 - 10" twist 16" barreled rifles at 2250 FPS. What works for the 16" rifles gives me 2450 FPS from the 24" 1 - 12" twist rifle. I have not yet approached working up loads specifically for the 24" but will, using both the NOE and the Lyman 225-415 55 RF.

Slower twist is supposedly better for lighter bullets, faster for heavier. When I started as a LEO, our carbines were 1 in 10" and we were shooting 42 grain Federal Blitz ammo. When the military started issuing heavier bullets, the company that made our carbines switched to 1 in 7" twist which would not stabilize the lighter bullet. Lets just say, the 42 grain 'patterned' in the faster twist. My agency switched to 55 grain ammo, problem solved.

I have plenty of both boolits cast, just not the powder for more velocity. I am at book load near max, I just quit when my rifles said they were happy. Why add more sugar when the cake is already sweet?

[Greg]

kiwi

I load these boolits for my .222 (a Rem 788) the 1/ 14" twist works great

NEI 22-54 GC
with gas check seated .646" long ~ weight 60 grains ready to load.

Lyman 225462
with gas check seated .626" long ~ weight 59 grains ready to load.

Ideal single cavity 225438 HP
with gas check seated .492" long ~ weight 41 grains ready to load.

Ideal single cavity 225415
with gas check seated .550" long ~ weight 50 grains* ready to load.
*note: originally the 225415 was a 50 grain boolit…much later it was changed to a 55 grain boolit.


I use an alloy mixed from wheel weights + 2% tin plus an equal weight of pure lead. should result in approximately 8-9 bhn alloy

it will stretch your wheel weights twice as far, and only add a few dollars to your alloy cost.

if your barrel is a little rough, you can heat treat the boolits in an oven at 465º for a half hour then quench in tap (cold) water…size / lube / gas check as soon as dry. result in approximately 15-16 bhn alloy. allow a few weeks to fully harden up.

now once you have your boolits cast…you should (really need to) cull them under a good light. look at them like they owe you money. any flaws is just reason to recycle them next cast.

front band must be perfect, drive bands…perfect !

base, crisp and square !

if not…re-melt them with a vengeance. or cry at your flyer ! your choice !

size to fit the throat, less ½ a thousandth of an inch

you want a M die spud that is .002 smaller than boolit size with a step that is .001 larger than your sized boolit. adjust to accept about ½ of the gas check.

seat them to engrave the front band, no need to crimp.

This should get you started, at least down the road.