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    Case gauges for 45ACP

    So I'm finally gonna start reloading for 45ACP. First autoloader reloading attempt. I know this headspaces off the case mouth and thought I might better work with a case gauge at least for a bit. Using coated cast boolits of .452". Which case gauge are you using for .452" boolits? I've noticed a couple options specify .451".

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    Yep not sure. I kinda went off half cocked so to speak. Decided on cast vs plated bullets before I thought about possible throat issues. Guess we will see.
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    The best case gauge you can use is the barrel of your pistol.
    Remove the barrel from your pistol and drop the cartridges into the chamber. They should drop in freely(otherwise known as the "plunk" test).
    If they stop short of fully entering the barrel, you may not be completely removing the case belling. If your crimp is completely removing the bell, you may have throating or chamber issues.
    If the cartridge plunks nicely, you should be good to go.

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    I also would like to suggest a Lee factory crimp die.
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    +1 Tazman

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    Yep plunk test
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    1. Your barrel.
    2. I've had excellent luck with the EGW 7 hole 45 ACP gauge. I use it to check ALL loaded ammo. It helps me catch high primers and anything else.

    Do NOT use a Lee Carbide Factory Crimp Die. It will cause more problems than it solves.
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    You should use the plunk test when getting set up with a new bullet or changing settings on your seat die. But then, it's a pain in the butt to unload and disassemble your gun for that one odd cartridge that you need to test occasionally. I've had good luck with Wilson gages. They aren't a waste of money because they save plenty of time.

    I've had lots of rounds that wouldn't plunk, but would chamber fully if fed from the magazine and the slide cycled on them. I keep them separate and shoot them first for plinking.

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    Sounds like it is down the middle on case gauge vs plunk test. All good info on that.

    I've always used a Lee FCD on my pistol rounds (all revolver rounds) with no issues. Is there something different about autoloader ammo in general or 45 ACP specifically that causes issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AggiePharmD View Post
    Sounds like it is down the middle on case gauge vs plunk test. All good info on that.

    I've always used a Lee FCD on my pistol rounds (all revolver rounds) with no issues. Is there something different about autoloader ammo in general or 45 ACP specifically that causes issues?
    No. The Lee Factory Crimp Die works just fine.
    Some people complain that it sizes the boolit down, but I have never had that experience with them. I use them on all my handgun cartridges both revolver and autoloader alike.

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    I favor a light Taper Crimp.

    Use bbl for Plunk test.

    How did we ever manage to handload Billions of rounds in the "olden days" without case gauges.
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    +2 Tazman , use your barrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by nueces5 View Post
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    If you have a match grade barrel you may be surprised how much taper crimp is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazman View Post
    No. The Lee Factory Crimp Die works just fine.
    Some people complain that it sizes the boolit down, but I have never had that experience with them. I use them on all my handgun cartridges both revolver and autoloader alike.
    I agree with using the Lee FCD for 45 ACP, however, I do not recommend it for 9MM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazman View Post
    No. The Lee Factory Crimp Die works just fine.
    Some people complain that it sizes the boolit down, but I have never had that experience with them. I use them on all my handgun cartridges both revolver and autoloader alike.
    Agree. I have "certain" handguns that need the LFCD and I use it all the time. I have one for every cal/gun I reload for.

    One solution for one person may not fix YOUR problems with YOUR guns. You gotta mess around with what is out there and arrive at what YOUR guns like to eat. I know it took me several months to finally figure what my 1911 45ACP likes besides factory FMJ'.

    45ACP is my LEAST favorite boolit to reload. I thought it was 9m until I got into the 1911's!!!!!!!!

    I still need to order a 45 throat reamer.

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    I use an L.E. Wilson .45 ACP max cartridge gage for cartridges I load for three different pistols that my son and my god son have. It works great.

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    Don't worry about headspace, seat RN to specified oal, seat a swc so there is about 20 thou of shoulder above the casemouth.

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    Most dies size the case so it will hold a .451 jacket but this is too tight for lead boolet and can damage them during seating, especially true for flat bases and soft swaged. Get a Lyman M die expander plug at .452, or just decap with a bigger die and size with the Lee FCD , minus the guts. Good luck

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    If you want to spend the money buy a Wilson case gage. If you are like me and every penny is tight use your barrel and plunk test. If you are worried about sizing down with the lee fcd just kiss the case mouth with it. It will get rid of the flair and not size your bullets down. I only had the fcd size down only really over size bullets. Also they would not chamber any way. On my 45 acp Springfield I had a problem with chambering. The first rounds I loaded for it about half would not chamber. Found out the bell on my case mouth was belled out still to much. I just took the fcd and just inserted the rounds only about .030 to .050 thou and it took care of the problem. I also full leingth some of the ammo in the fcd. It didint even touch the side of the ammo only the very end of the bell.

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