After a too long hiatus, I recently had my broken 686 repaired and got it out shooting this week. I took along a bunch of 38s and 357s I had loaded and squirreled away years ago. I had a few boxes of mid-range 357 Magnums. 158 grain cast SWC, coated, loaded over W231 and Titegroup. Man, are those fun! Just enough boom and flash but not crazy, perfect for some double action shooting. I definitely prefer the W231 loads over the Titegroup, lighter recoil and just a more pleasant experience. I'm digging out my dies tonight to load up a couple hundred more