Silly rules written by ignorant people.
Silly rules written by ignorant people.
Don Verna
They work fine for deer, load it down you don't need 500 grains going 2100 fps unless you want to line em up 5 deep and save lead and powder. The 340 Lee PC at about 1400 is more than enough and fun to shoot out of an 8.8 lb 458.
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The 458 lott would also be ohio deer legal. The 45-120 and 50-140 as well several African big game rim cartridge are ohio deer legal as well.
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SWheeler that's a nice .458 Mauser.
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Thank you, haven't got around to jeweling the bolt yet, someday. I like that it weights .4 lb less than my M70 Winchester in 264, and at that it's still heavy to carry all day hunting.
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The people that write game laws don't seem to know what they are talking about everywhere. Here in Wyoming it's legal to hunt elk with a 38 special but illegal to hunt anything with a 10mm because they based the law on over all length.
458 win mag would be an excellent cast bullet hunting rifle go from sub Sonic heavies to hold on to your teeth heavies.
Doug
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My .458. Weighs just shy of 13 pounds and is proportionally large in the stock. Way too awkward to hunt with, but it is a lot of fun to shoot. I need to get some better kind of sighting system on it.
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Now this thread is just plain cool!
My hunting buddy used a .458 Lott this year. It worked just fine on Ohio whitetails
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I'm also I interested as I'm specifically going to keep the velocity down for recoil on my cast
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Powder coated or not, you could still push those plain based bullets a lot slower than that and still have a very effective round for realistic deer hunting ranges. I tend to hunt from ambush positions, either tree stands or hidden on the ground and that means my shots are usually woods distances at unalarmed deer. Even weak Trapdoor ballistics worked fine for me.
I have a 45 Colt 20" Carbine which can push some pretty amazing velocity. Lee 452-255 RF over a charge of I4227 was getting me almost 2000 fps. Plain based, Powder Coated, very accurate. I have also launched a NOE 225-62 RN plain based and designed just for PC I get an average of 2250 fps from a Mini 14 and a few AR 15 rifles with 16" barrels. I have an H-Bar 24" single shot, and the same loads are yielding 2450 fps.
All loads mentioned above were with ACWW/range lead at 50/50. In all fairness, the .223 loads would probably benefit from a little harder alloy. I am tempted to get some Hard Ball lead and some Linotype and see what can be done. Right now, I get an 1" to 1 1/4" at 100 yds, but would like to see if I can tighten that up. BTW, the 45 Colt Carbine is a hoot to shoot a dead soft lead Round Ball over a light charge of Bullseye at 900 fps. Quiet like a .22 lr, hits like a hammer. No leading, didn't even lube the ball, just loaded it knowing I was only testing 5. I have 20 lbs of the RBs in a container, now I just need to PC some and have them around for grins and giggles.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |