I agree, I've witnessed on two occations hunters standing to close get knocked off their feet by black bear and not get hurt. Both bear were treed with hounds, shot and dropped about 20/30 yards straight down, got up and ran in what direction they were facing. Both hunters happened to be In their path and were steamrollered while the bear just kept on trucking. One bear was 286lbs and the other was around a 180 lbs.