I have a choice of two lightly used priced right rifles. I'm looking for something that I could use in close brush in Eastern Pa. I like what I read about both calibers. I'm drawn towards the Whelen as it seems to be bit more versatile, but how is the recoil? I tried a buddies 45-70 and handed it back. Granted it was with a very stout load, but too much for me. I don't think I would scope either rifle.