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Thread: Mossberg 14" - No NFA Stamp Required,

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    Mossberg 14" - No NFA Stamp Required,

    Have you always wanted to own a short-barreled shotgun but not wanted to deal with the NFA hassle? Well, now there is an easy and simple (and factory-direct) way to do it. The new 590 Shockwave from Mossberg is a 14-inch barreled shotgun that is classified and fully compliant by the BATFE, and does not require a tax stamp for transfers.



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    This gun was posted here about a year ago.
    If anyone decides to buy one, you need to keep the original box and receipt.
    My local gun dealer won't touch it.
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    I doubt it will be a problem. No doubt Mossberg did its due diligence. I would like to have one for my .310" buckshot loads which are loaded to low recoil.

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    As I recall it falls into the same category as an XP100 which is not classified as a short barreled rifle, because it was originally manufactured as a handgun, and not altered after manufacture.
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    Makes sense. I want a pair/brace.

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    Interesting. Surprised there was wiggle room for this to be a non -NFA item.

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    So it's a shot "pistol". I guess the 26" length is the trick. I was thinking short barreled shotgun pistols were a $5 AOW tax stamp. That may be because they are/were converted from a long gun. New niche. Just manufacture as a pistol to start withe.

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    The ATF is known to reverse course. And it does it quite often. This one probably not so much because it doesn't have a butt stock. Which makes it a handgun not a SBS. I have no interest in these types of guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BK7saum View Post
    So it's a shot "pistol". I guess the 26" length is the trick. I was thinking short barreled shotgun pistols were a $5 AOW tax stamp. That may be because they are/were converted from a long gun. New niche. Just manufacture as a pistol to start withe.
    AoW are, but AoW are defined as being shorter than 26" OAL. If take a rifle or shotgun that was manufactured with a stock and make it shorter than 26" or put on/cut down the barrel to less than 18", it is instead a short-barreled shotgun/short barreled rifle/weapon made from a rifle and is a $200 tax stamp.

    I'm not a lawyer but my understanding of the law is that any firearm, rifled or smooth bore, with a bore diameter greater than .50" must either be a Destructive Device or get a sporting purpose exemption. Can anyone corroborate or contradict this? If so, Mossberg would have to have something in writing on this.

    Between AR pistols with braces, these shotguns, and some of the other stuff coming out I have to wonder if ATF is intentionally sticking to the letter of the law in order to highlight the flaws of this particular octogenarian law.

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    I'd guess that they get around the destructive device rule due to it shooting 12 Gauge shells. Here's a quote from the law "except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes"

    I'd assume Mossberg did their homework and would be comfortable owning one, but I have no desire to own one. That's assuming they would be legal in Iowa where SBS and SBR are completely ineligible to be owned by citizens.

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    Serbu Super Shorty

    I have a Mossberg with a 6" barrel and pistol grip. It is classed as an AOW with a $5 tax stamp. The shown one is built on an 870 receiver but they are the same. The front grip folds down and locks to aid in pumping rounds and control.
    3 shot pump in 20 ga. A real hoot to shoot!
    Personally I wouldn't take a chance on the Mossberg 14" barreled shotgun. The ATFE has been know to reverse their position more than once.
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    My take on it is that it makes a better range toy, (with documentation) than a home defense or other general duty gun. Any run of the mill person not just police officer that sees it is going to think "ILLEGAL sawed off shotgun," and various histrionics may ensue.

    Since I never developed an attraction for stockless or folding stocked small arms, I will pass on this.

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    I'm not gonna lie, I will probably end up with one of these. Maybe sell off my 20ga stuff to make some room. There's an adaptor to help Mossbergs cycle the 2" shells well, which would make a 3-shot tube into a 5-shot tube. Less recoil, too.

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    Well if you read up on it - it falls in a loop hole (as the libs like to call it) - it's not a shotgun, not a pistol, being 26" or longer it's not a AOW and weighing less than 10 lbs it's not a destructive device - so it's just a firearm that shoots 12 gauge shells.

    If you changed from that funny birds head grip to a pistol grip you would have just made a Short barreled shotgun out of it. But left in the factory configuration it's fine as a range toy.

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    Don't need one but I want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk42gunner View Post
    My take on it is that it makes a better range toy, (with documentation) than a home defense or other general duty gun. Any run of the mill person not just police officer that sees it is going to think "ILLEGAL sawed off shotgun," and various histrionics may ensue.
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    He said "....well, it sure LOOKS official".
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    I'm on the wait list for one. The 590 is a great shotgun.

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    I contacted Mossberg and will get the lowdown.
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    No thanks, the recoil from my 18" barreled 500 is bad enough with 00 buck!

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