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Thread: Lee 215 Karabiner - Need Load data 8mm Mauser (7.92x57)

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    Lee 215 Karabiner - Need Load data 8mm Mauser (7.92x57)

    Just did my first cast of the Lee 215 8mm mold from Midsouth.
    Lubed and gas checked they weigh 245 grains.

    Now I'm looking for a load to get around 1850-2000 ft/s.
    Rifle is a Polish WZ29 from the SCW.
    Need powder charge and COAL if you have any.
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    coal is whatever the rifle say's it is.
    17-18grs of 2400,29-30grs of 4895 are pretty standard loads in that velocity range.
    you can also use 200gr data from the 30-06 to get you started.

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    I'm with Fiver on the 17-18 grain 2400 loads Should work real fine for a starter
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    22.gr of H4759 with the same bullet with an 8x57 case. I see I'm not the only one who got a HEAVY Karibineer Mold from MidSouth.

    Oh and 1850fps - 5ft from the muzzle.
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    You meant H4895 not h4759, right? Do you know the OAL of the cartridge?


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    Sorry not very good on a computer,sent the pic first. here are some loads I worked up,they all shot this way out of my rifle. 16.5 & 17.5 grs 2400 , 27 -28 grs of imr 4895 , 14 grs sr 4759.
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    sigloader: 28grs of ACC5744 gives you about 1900 fps for this bullet. Note: no filler to the case. Bye Ales

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    Does that say , Powder H-853
    in your load data ?

    Tell me more about that powder.
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    Yes H-853 this is a real old powder that is not available anymore. I bought 10 lbs from an old man years ago and the can stated use IMR 4895 data. And it has proven to be true from what I have loaded. They don't all shoot to the same zero but they all shoot accurately. Hope this info helps.
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    22gs of 4895 would really be pushing things low.

    853 is a new number to me too, I'd like to hear about it also.

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    its 27 & 28 grs of imr 4895. I think h-853 is an old military ball powder but not sure. i'm about out ,its some of the best powder I've ever had,wish I could get more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigloader View Post
    You meant H4895 not h4759, right? Do you know the OAL of the cartridge?
    I meant to type IMR SR4759. OAL is 2.97"
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    My go-to load for the Karabiner in my M98 is 35gr H4895, chronographed at 1,850, but my Karabiner casts a bit heavier than 215gr, 235gr if I remember correctly.

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    mine also casts 232 to 235 , they to shoot better for me if they are harder. for me they are to hard if water dropped.
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    16 gr of 2400 is a fun load!

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    Mine drops at 235 gr also. Got it to use in a CZ-23 with peep sight & post front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonie View Post
    My go-to load for the Karabiner in my M98 is 35gr H4895, chronographed at 1,850, but my Karabiner casts a bit heavier than 215gr, 235gr if I remember correctly.
    Beat me to it and with my favorite load too! That KAR boolit is a heavy hitter on deer and one heavy duty penetrator.

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    Older spiral bound Lyman manual has an 8mm 220+ grain cast load listed in it. I think #45 or 46.

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    I have the heavier "Cruise Missile" 225 gr. mold. Check and lubed weighs about 250 gr. No data for it.

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