A friend of mine is considering trying cast boolits for his 30-30 thinking of feeling less felt recoil. I did a little research and found little available for 30-30 in the way of molds. any recomendations as to what would be a good boolit to use?
A friend of mine is considering trying cast boolits for his 30-30 thinking of feeling less felt recoil. I did a little research and found little available for 30-30 in the way of molds. any recomendations as to what would be a good boolit to use?
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision.../dp/B001GXLRXE would do good I think. I have the 150 grain version that was given to me by a member here after my house burnt down. It has done good so far.
There is a plethora of molds suitable for the 30-30. I like the RCBS 30-150FN or the RCBS 30-180FN. The NOE 311041 works well, as do the LEE C309-150 and C309-170. There tons of other ones out there that work well.
For a budget mould the Lee C309 -170 - F is hard to beat. I've been using it in my model 94 for many years. I tried the Lee C309 - 115 - F first, thinking it would make a light recoiling target load , but for some reason the 170 grain boolit is much more accurate and has no more recoil than the 115 grain boolit .
Gary
Ideal 311291 and 311413 loaded with 3031 are my Go To's
Use both bullets for Rifle Caliber Lever Action matches out to 500meters
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Nothing wrong with cast in the .30/30, but cast bullets do not give less recoil. If that is the objective, look at reduced loads using jacketed.
I use a cast Lee # 90362 with gas check in front of Trail Boss. Very little recoil and accurate.
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shows you what I know about cast for rifle. NOTHING!......LOL***** My goal is a plinking round for reduced recoil. My friend will never see the opportunity to hunt.
My favorite is an old Ideal 311441 over a moderate charge of 4198. Shoots well in a couple of 30-30s.
If your friend wants a plinking round with hardly any recoil, look at this one. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/11...semi-wadcutter
Sized to .311 and tumble lubed in Alox, over 3.0 grains of Bullseye. It's about like shooting a 22, but hits harder.
That 311299 you are trying to sell is one of the best bullets in a 30-30. Give it a try with red dot or Trailboss and you will have alot of fun.
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The Lee C309-170-F works great for me in both the Marlin and Winchester Rifles. I use enough of IMR-3031 to give me 2000 fps. The load is extremely accurate and penetration on game with a Lyman #2 alloy bullet is stunning. The Lee mold is about 20 bucks, gas checks are readily available for about 40 bucks per 1000 and there are a lot of viable propellants. Have fun with your casting and loads.
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ShooterAZ nailed it IMO except I shoot mine with 3-5 grains of Red Dot.
Very light recoil and report, good accuracy at 50 yards, more thump than a .22lr and cost about the same if you can keep your lead and powder costs down.
Cast of pure or range scrap, lower speeds so no need for WW or Lino. Size to whatever size you need to fill groove and prevent leading.
Ben's Liquid Lube works great on these, quick, easy, not expensive, a little goes a LONG way.
You can go bigger or faster but either will add to recoil.
the lyman 311358 is designed for the 30 carbine and comes in at 130grs with a gas check.
it's pretty good at the 15-1600 fps mark.
or you can drop down to the rcbs 32-098 rnfp, it's a plain base and does well at about 11-1200 fps.
small game accurate at 50 yds too.
if he just wants to do 50-100yd paper or rock shooting either one of them will do the job and the recoil would be next to nothing in that rifle.
I use the Lee C309-170-F (GC) and the Lyman 311410 (130 grain plain base). I've tried a couple of others loaned to me, but those two are the regulars I cast. Also for light plinking loads I use Bear Creek supply 32 cal bullets (100 grain, 0.314 moly coated sized down to 0.309) and Hornady 32 caliber semi-wadcutters (0.314 sized down to 0.309). The Bear Creek supply ones are particularly nice because they need no lube and have a round nose and flat point-- just right for my lever gun.
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No longer have a .30-30, but I've tried many of the moulds mentioned. As I recall, all the designs shoot fairly well, but if I had to pick one, it would be the RCBS 30-180 FN. About 190 grains, wheelweight.
A great boolit for short range (100 yds or less) shooting is the 311-440 by Lyman or the NOE 312-440. That blunt nose sheds velocity quickly, but boy does it shoot well in my 1953 M94.
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Depending on OAL the 3118 will be a good shooter with a mild load of pistol powder. I am not sure if there is an easier bottle-necked cartridge to load for.
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Has anyone had any luck using the Lee C309-170-F without the gas check if the projectiles have been powder coated? Maybe not a full house load of around 2200fps but more like 1600-1700?
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |