still will lube some but getting less and less
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still will lube some but getting less and less
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Lube. Nothing against PC but I'm not a high volume shooter, just cast a bunch in the spring and pan lube/load as needed. I have tubs of lube in the freezer and just add a bit to the pan when it gets low.
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Started out tumble lube, then went to Hi-Tek, now do PC and hitek, so no real answer I guess, except to quote some one else," why yes I do"!!!! BLL is now wad cutter lube, and just for grins, BLL over hitek on some heavy rifle loads! Worked out good enough for me. Just my .02 cents.
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I'm doing both but that may change as I get further into the powder coating. So far it is looking pretty good and it has some definite advantages over the conventional methods of lubing boolits.
The volume of boolits you can process on one sitting is far greater than my Lyman 450 and after they are coated pushing them thru a push thru die is easy fast and clean.
The PC also tends to make the bases of boolits nice and flat.
But the main one I see so far is not having to mess with the lube and the mess it creates. Handling PC'd boolits is a far nicer experience.
Randy
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I lube because when I started powder coating had't been invented. Pan lube , tumble lube and lube/sizer was it.
Pan lubing was messy , I didn't like the way tumble lubing looked and if I was going to size them I might as well lube them them at the same time.
The Lyman 450 was purchased decades ago...it was the newest model then.
I'm happy with the results and don't want to start any new method....I also don't need more stuff in my tiny crowded reloading room. I don't have any spare outlets to plug an oven in anyways.
Really no right or wrong way, just different methods to get the cat skinned.
Gary
Going both ways, lube/size and PC in rifles...exclusively PC in pistols and revolvers.
The lube sizing diminishes as the methods of handling post PC sizing of noses and installation of gaschecks improve.
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I do both - shake and bake and old style lube
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The results I am getting with the 358 AR will not allow me to go back to lubed bullets. This is a 200gr Plain Base Flat Point RCBS at almost 2,600 FPS, .5 inches at 100 meters, no leading and clean as a whistle. I just PC them then run them through a Lee push sizer lubed with case lube, easy peazy.
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Lube. Learned with a star sizer back in the 80s. A lot has changed, not using mirror lube much anymore.
I agree that if time were a factor, I would probably think differently about the whole subject. I am off an average of 18 days a month. Time I have for PCing.
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I do both/either, depending on the mood at the time. Have success with either one.
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lube.
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I'm not familiar with powder coating. I tried Lee's tumble lube years ago and found out quickly I was not a fan of that process. I continue to use traditional bullet lube in a lube/sizer for all cast bullets, handgun and rifle. While I see no drawbacks to this method, I would be willing to try the powder coating process if there was an accuracy advantage. My interpretation, based on what I have read, is that best accuracy still comes from traditionally lubed and sized cast bullets. Is that a correct assessment?
What process do cast bullet match winners use?
they are shooting rifles.
if there was an advantage to powder coating they would be doing it.
they ain't.
Thanks; that says a lot in favor of the conventional lubing process.
Lube using lee alox cut with a liquid wax.
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I've only been casting a few years. Started out with 45/45/10 mostly for 45 ACP and 38 spl. Tried PC'ing as a way to run home cast boolits through a suppressor and so far I've been surprised how well it works. I may switch back at some point, but so far so good.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |