I'm getting ready to order a 80% lower from Daytona Tactical. I've never ordered from them before and was looking for others experiences with them before I order. Thanks
I'm getting ready to order a 80% lower from Daytona Tactical. I've never ordered from them before and was looking for others experiences with them before I order. Thanks
I live in Debary, not that far away from them. I have purchased a Couple of items from them. We just buy from the store. A couple of my RSO buddies have purchased 80% from them also. They are in Daytona Beach, Fl.
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Bought 5 rifle kits from Daytona over the last 2 years, never had a problem.
Just wandering...what is needed for the other 20%?? How hard and what tools are needed??
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Drill bits, an end mill helps a LOT and a decent drill press with a cross slide vise (or milling machine) and the jig that costs extra. In other words that 80% lower is gonna cost ya! It is a good learning experience but I wouldn't call it fun.
I used a cheap drill press and quickly found out that the quill had a wobble to it, add the play in from the cheap slide vise and it added up to a sloppy looking lower. Glad it can't be seen from the outside!
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https://www.80-lower.com/80-lower/?u...tm_content=80s
Take a look at this site.
Another source..
http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-...receivers.html
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Thanks, I placed my order. 7-10 days before it ships seemed kind of long but I guess that means they are busy. We have computer controlled milling machines at work so finishing the lower should go good.
I looked real hard at this place:
http://www.80percentarms.com/products/80-ar-15-easy-jig
They use a router jig and looked pretty impressive. I just couldn't justify the 80% with the few I will use.
ATF Ruling 2015-1:
Held further, a business (including an association or society) may not avoid the manufacturing license, marking, and recordkeeping requirements of the GCA by allowing persons to perform manufacturing processes on blanks or incomplete firearms (including frames or receivers) using machinery, tools, or equipment under its dominion and control where that business controls access to, and use of, such machinery, tools, or equipment.”
Make no mistake -- They will remember how easily you surrendered your rights.
I purchased these and machined them with a 1970s Delta drill press with absolutely no problems.
You can always serial # and register them if you later want to pass them along.
Like anything worth doing, care and patients are required. Drill and mill slowly with proper RPM and lube all but guarantee good results. So far the previously used jigs have been used 4 times and are still serviceable.
I added a 1/2" thick piece of steel to the base of my vice for added width stability and weight.
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If you're careful the jigs will last a long time. Cost wise I don't think you're going to beat an Anderson arms lower when they're on sale for $35-$50 even with the added transfer fee. Now if you just want to make one for fun, then a mill makes it very easy although many have been done on drill presses and there is the relatively new router jig. Take your time and most boo-boo's can be fixed with aluminum soldering rods (zinc) and a plumbers torch or even JBweld.
I looked real hard at doing a 80% lower. With lowers on sale at 39 bucks at times I finally decided it did not make much sense.
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I use the 80% Arms router jig, it still looks new after five lowers. I did my first lower with an old Craftsman router, it turned out fine. Since then I bought the biggest Boush router Lowe's had, they look even better now.
The only problem I run in to with a big router is that as you get deeper in to the receiver the endmill will want to chatter more, so you have to move slower on the finishing passes to keep things really smooth and I have to use the drill press to finish the trigger slot.
One company is now making a jig that will do both AR15 and AR10 lowers, it's either M1 Machining or Blitzkrieg.
It's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years (Abe Lincoln)
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” George Washington
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