Inline FabricationLee PrecisionMidSouth Shooters SupplyMCD Products
RotoMetals2Titan ReloadingReloading EverythingRepackbox

Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Surplus powder all use up or what?

  1. #1
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    117

    Surplus powder all use up or what?

    I looking to buy surplus powder but most is not around anymore.Is most gone now?

    I still am a big fan of brown alox.

    Little Joe

  2. #2
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    117
    So no one knows about surplus powder.Looking for eight pounds of surplus maybe more if price is right.Good all around powder is hard to find as stated above so where else to look?

    Little Joe

  3. #3
    Boolit Master Maven's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    4,975
    LJ, go to the first Sticky above your post for sources of milsurp powder.

  4. #4
    Boolit Master
    jimkim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Dodge Co. GA. Between the Ocmulgee and Little Ocmulgee rivers.
    Posts
    1,351
    Pats reloading seems to have plenty.

    US Govt mantra: If it's moving tax it. If it's still moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it

  5. #5
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    117
    Thankyou for showing where power is sold.I was not finding any.

    What I want is good all around powder for use in big bore pistol shooting,444 Marlin and 45-70,may want to use in other straight wall case caliber round.I have Encore and I shoot it as pistol.

    What would you suggest in powder?

    Thankyou again
    Littlle Joe

  6. #6
    Moderator Emeritus


    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    SW Montana
    Posts
    12,628
    Go to the bottom of the page, click in Cast-pics and look up data for each cartridge. With haz-mat costs surplus powder is best bought in full case lots, IMO. Gianni
    Last edited by MT Gianni; 08-02-2008 at 10:53 AM. Reason: spelling

  7. #7
    Boolit Master
    jimkim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Dodge Co. GA. Between the Ocmulgee and Little Ocmulgee rivers.
    Posts
    1,351
    I like the Russian shotgun powder for anything Unique is used for. Here is a thread with different types of surplus powder and what load data to use.
    http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum...50&forum_id=23
    I hope it is all right to post the link.
    Here are two more places to get surplus powder.
    http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html
    http://www.hi-techammo.com/
    Last edited by jimkim; 08-04-2008 at 01:30 AM.

    US Govt mantra: If it's moving tax it. If it's still moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it

  8. #8
    Boolit Grand Master
    Shiloh's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Republic of Texas
    Posts
    6,852
    Surplus powder is drying up.

    What was left from previous manufacturers and surplus dealers has been sold/shot up. The availability of new supplies, from what info I can glean, is that future availability is questionable at best. The gov't prefers it destroyed. What is available is a lot more expensive than it used to be, closer to canister grade. Some discounted powder is available, but the variety and 60% discounts are gone. I'm afraid the glory days of inexhaustible supplies of surplus powder are gone.

    Shiloh

  9. #9
    Boolit Master
    sundog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Green Country Oklahoma
    Posts
    3,510
    If there is an INDIVIDUAL who is responsible for the destruction of all surplus powder, maybe we should find out who that is. Our government is not only PAYING for its destruction, it could be making money by selling it. If that is what is happening, it's WRONG. If somebody gave that order, it UNAMERICAN. Anybody know?

  10. #10
    Boolit Master Ricochet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Bristol, Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    4,898
    According to what I saw posted years ago on Bartlett's site, it was an order that went out during the Clinton administration. We've been buying up powder that was surplused out years ago.
    "A cheerful heart is good medicine."

  11. #11
    Boolit Master
    Lee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    928
    'Spelled Klinton, I heard the same thing, and it doesn't surprise me one bit.
    The Hilldabeast wants to outlaw air so as to dry up sales of Airsoft guns............
    Been paddlin' upstream all my life, don't see no reason to turn around now.

  12. #12
    Boolit Master Ricochet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Bristol, Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    4,898
    It's worth noting that Bush hasn't done a whole lot to help out with these "gifts" Clinton left us.
    "A cheerful heart is good medicine."

  13. #13
    Boolit Master GrizzLeeBear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    886
    Thank you for noting that Ricochet. I get tired of hearing the "It's all Clinton's fault for issuing that Executive Order" talk. Georgy boy has had 8 years to recind that order, but has not. Where's the NRA? Unless it changes, surplus powder will soon be a fond memory.

  14. #14
    Boolit Master Ricochet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Bristol, Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    4,898
    Could it have something to do with the powder & ammunition companies having large government ordnance contracts, lobbyists on staff, and wanting neither competition with their current commercial components nor possible liability for someone (mis)using stuff they manufactured for the government decades ago? They have a lot more pull than we or the milsurp vendors do.
    "A cheerful heart is good medicine."

  15. #15
    Boolit Master at Heaven's Range 2010

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    MANNING SC
    Posts
    1,551

    components

    what better gun control than to dry up the powder supply.the gov has been distroying all kinds of arms that could go to civilians under the second.dont blame the NRA they are the association not the controler.
    WILDCATT

  16. #16
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ewing, NJ
    Posts
    2

    Surplus Powder

    A few of us bought a bunch of 4895 & 846 from Pat's Reloading a few years back for $6.00 @ lb. I'm still shooing it! One word of caution, with each different lot use your Chronograph to adjust you charge. It will vary by about 100 fps in some cases.

  17. #17
    Moderator Emeritus JeffinNZ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Christchurch, New Zealand
    Posts
    5,816
    I would have thought surplus powder was a God given right. After all YOU paid for it to begin with through your taxes!!

    I sooooooooooo wish I could get it out of the US and down to my neck of the woods. Would make my shooting a lot cheaper.
    Thermal underwear style guru.
    "Exclusive international distributor of Jeff Brown Hunt Club clothing."
    Supplier to the rich(?) and infamous.

    Cheers from New Zealand

    Jeff.

  18. #18
    Moderator Emeritus
    dromia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    UK. Sutherland & Co Durham
    Posts
    5,134
    Welcome to Cast Boolits Major Stuph.


    For fine firearms and shooting requisites visit my Web Site by clicking the link below:

    Pukka Bundhooks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check