Venison and GMO corn

[jcwit]

They are when you take into account the corn borer & root worm problem. And that Mary is a fact.

As always, Progress is a terrible thing!

[outdoorfan]

Mary, thanks for your comments. I agree with your position and appreciate your insight.

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I am not a tree hugger, that's for sure.

I think I understand that GMO is probably not any good for our health. And I don't consider living longer to be an advantage if one's life is dependent on medication (pharmacy) to keep things rolling. However, drugs aren't all bad all the time, as far as I'm concerned. But I reckon people 100 years ago who lived till they were 60-80 years did so with less aches, pains, and issues than those today. People's lack of nutrition (eating real food) is catching up to them in many cases.

The topic of vaccines got thrown into the mix here. From the reading I've done, I don't believe vaccines as a whole are of any real benefit. I feel they are a detriment to good health, for the most part. Antibiotics can sure be helpful and have their place. Antibiotics can also be found naturally in herbs/plants if people care to learn of such.

I agree that just about anything packaged that is not organically certified is going to be loaded with garbage. I agree that there is no free lunch, and that growing these plants is a lot of work and costly. Same with feeding one's livestock without gmo grains.

[outdoorfan]

I found this documentary (Genetic Roulette) to be very helpful and eye-opening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAMlir8oprw

[outdoorfan]

The elites seem to eat an organic diet, while pushing gmo's on the public: http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/bot...os-for-others/

[Stewbaby]

Nutsss

[starmac]

LOL Do the elites live any longer.
Doctors push all kind of junk drugs, vitamins, whatever pays them. The last I heard they didn't, on average live any longer than most gang members.

[jcwit]

The topic of vaccines got thrown into the mix here. From the reading I've done, I don't believe vaccines as a whole are of any real benefit. I feel they are a detriment to good health, for the most part.

REALLY, You actually think that way??

How do you think we put a stop to small pox, polio, whooping cough, measles, and other sickness.

Ya, they are a detriment to health.

[jcwit]

But I reckon people 100 years ago who lived till they were 60-80 years did so with less aches, pains, and issues than those today. People's lack of nutrition (eating real food) is catching up to them in many cases.

All the while the average age was 30/40 years old.

[jcwit]

And I don't consider living longer to be an advantage if one's life is dependent on medication (pharmacy) to keep things rolling.

Somehow I bet you'd change your mind if you needed to take an insulin shot once or twice a day or die.

Or needed to take 3 pills a day to keep your kidneys in operation or die.

You might disagree now but when the time came????????????????????????????????????????????

[outdoorfan]

All the while the average age was 30/40 years old.

Sure. I suppose penecillin (spelling) had a lot to do with that.

REALLY, You actually think that way??

How do you think we put a stop to small pox, polio, whooping cough, measles, and other sickness.

Ya, they are a detriment to health.

Weren't those viruses already in decline at the time the vaccines came out? Have you ever read about where vaccines originated from and the concept behind them?

LOL Do the elites live any longer.
Doctors push all kind of junk drugs, vitamins, whatever pays them. The last I heard they didn't, on average live any longer than most gang members.

Take a look at the presidents of the last 30+ years. Living pretty dang long, aren't they? Hmmm.

Doctors are largely ignorant about nutrition. Keep in mind their training is largely controlled by big money pharma.

[jcwit]

Sure. I suppose penecillin (spelling) had a lot to do with that.
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Penicillin came into common use about in the 1940's, long after you'er 100 years.

[jcwit]

Weren't those viruses already in decline at the time the vaccines came out? Have you ever read about where vaccines originated from and the concept behind them?
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No they were not in decline, take it from a polio survivor, from the 1950's.

But if you wish to continue to believe such, have at it. Just please don't try to pass this misinformation on to others.

Really you need to get a grip on life.

[jcwit]

Doctors are largely ignorant about nutrition. Keep in mind their training is largely controlled by big money pharma.

Sure, that's why my Dr. Has me on a diet, because he is ignorant about what I'm to eat.

Makes perfect logic to me.

[outdoorfan]

Penicillin came into common use about in the 1940's, long after you'er 100 years.

Thank you for pointing that out. I arbitrarily pulled that "100 year" figure out of the hat, so to speak.

No they were not in decline, take it from a polio survivor, from the 1950's.

But if you wish to continue to believe such, have at it. Just please don't try to pass this misinformation on to others.

Really you need to get a grip on life.

I believe what I posted is reasonably accurate and not misinformation. I encourage you and anybody else who wants to learn more about this to read the book by Tim Oshea, The Sanctity of Human Blood (Vaccination is not Immunization).

Is getting a grip on life mean that I have to accept every form of propaganda that comes my way through television or government? Mansanto is not our friend. Maybe they are your friend, but likely not mine.

Sure, that's why my Dr. Has me on a diet, because he is ignorant about what I'm to eat.

Makes perfect logic to me.

First, I'm not classifying every doctor this way; only the majority. If you go find an herbologist, and ask them what kinds of food your body actually needs for good cell growth, you will find that most doctors are not trained with that knowledge in mind. That's what I meant. True nutrition; what your body really needs.


This thread is supposed to be about gmo corn and the eating of venison that has been affected by it. I was curious as to what other people felt about this. Thank you all for commenting, and if there is any more comments relating to gmo's, I would welcome that discussion. Vaccines and other topics are for another thread. Thanks!

[gwpercle]

Can't eat venison - GMO corn.
Can't eat red meat and chicken - antibiotics
Can't eat fish - mercury
What's left ?

Maybe the vegans have it right...no wait pesticides !
I can't eat nothing no more !
SOYLENT GREEN...yeah, that's the ticket !

Gary

[Elkins45]

A more specifically defined type of GMO is a "Transgenic Organism". This is an organism whose genetic makeup has been altered by the addition of genetic material from another, unrelated organism.


​Does this mean that Bruce Jenner is also a GMO??

Nope, he still has the same DNA and the same pesky Y chromosome.

[jcwit]

I believe what I posted is reasonably accurate and not misinformation. I encourage you and anybody else who wants to learn more about this to read the book by Tim Oshea, The Sanctity of Human Blood (Vaccination is not Immunization).

Is getting a grip on life mean that I have to accept every form of propaganda that comes my way through television or government? Mansanto is not our friend. Maybe they are your friend, but likely not mine.

But yet you will accept the propaganda from this self proclaimed skeptic, he's not even a Dr., he doesn't even have the cojones to put anything out about himself on his own web page. Ya, I looked him up, so he wrote a book, so did Hitler.

~http://www.timoshea.com/p/about-me-and-why-y.html

[Elkins45]

Science is bad, learning is bad, progress is bad. Back to the old ways. Turn off the lights and live in a cave. 40 years is enough for anyone.

This is like an old folk's home on the Internet.

[outdoorfan]

Can't eat venison - GMO corn.
Can't eat red meat and chicken - antibiotics
Can't eat fish - mercury
What's left ?

Maybe the vegans have it right...no wait pesticides !
I can't eat nothing no more !
SOYLENT GREEN...yeah, that's the ticket !

Gary

I hear ya. I have the same frustrations as I've been learning how to navigate my way through this. Ultimately, it seems to boil down to:

1. Eating foods and meats that you've grown yourself under your own control (usually mean quite an expense and labor)

2. Buying certified organic (huge expense)

3. I forgot what I was going to put here (LOL!)

It is a hardship (imo) and is something for those who take it seriously to grow into rather than diving into all at once.

I respect those who don't care and eat gmo, although it makes it harder for those of us who don't want to. Why? Because if more people demanded non-gmo foods, than that's where the efforts would probably be.

Regardless, to each their own. No problem.

[Hannibal]

I'm not sure the point at which this thread rounded the corner and became entertainment, but it has certainly become an interesting read.