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Thread: LAM II needed with Star?

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    LAM II needed with Star?

    I used a LAM II for several years before I picked up a star. I now use the star for higher volume handguns and the LAM II for rifle, but it is a pain to switch out sizers. Is there anything the LAM will do that the Star won't. I have been thinking about getting rid of the LAM to fund the missing dies in the Star and only run one sizer. Is this a bad idea?

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    It never hurts to have a backup machine. I have an old Lachmiller I bought in 1970 and still use it for low production rifle and gas check sizing. If you sell it you will miss it!

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    LAM II needed with Star?

    Switch out sizers as in the dies? About the only thing a LAM can do that a Star can't is just install gas checks. But this is a very minor thing. Sell the LAM and buy the Star dies that you're missing if you want. I have a Star and two LAM1s. All of them are used regularly.

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    I only have bench space for one sizer at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverjay View Post
    I only have bench space for one sizer at a time.
    http://leeprecision.com/bench-plate.html

    or the equivalent from the folks here that make 'em

    http://www.patmarlins.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    Switch out sizers as in the dies? About the only thing a LAM can do that a Star can't is just install gas checks. But this is a very minor thing. Sell the LAM and buy the Star dies that you're missing if you want. I have a Star and two LAM1s. All of them are used regularly.
    I heat treat all my rifle boolits, after installing gas checks, with the Star. Just back off on the lube pressure screw or remove the air line, if so equipped.

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    Only reason to keep it that I can think of is if you get the black powder cartridge addiction. Some of us have it! Having a second sizer set up with a BP lube is handy rather than changing out the lube. Since BP lube and pistol lube are essentially the same I use one for both. The other is set up for rifle lube.
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    you can duplicate the LAM's ability to push gas checks on with a star by breaking down and putting a piece of 1/8" steel over the sizers hole.
    a fender washer will work until you find a small strip of metal.

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    Thanks. I think I will get the Star dies and see how it goes first.

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    The only reason that I can see for keeping the Lam is to have another lube type avail. for use, but in that case I'd be happier with a second Star.

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    I have a couple of Stars and a Lyman 45. The only time I use it is when I want to make my own heel based bullets. I size the base and then push the bullet back out with the Lyman. Can't do that with the Star. I never lube with the Lyman, never found a thing that the Stars can't do. And I second using the ROCKDock mounts. I have 3 Mecs, the Lyman 45, and single stage press with mounts, saves greatly on bench space.

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    You can't have too many lubesizers

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    Well, the LAM is good for sizing spitzer boolets. That is not easy on a star unless you don't mind flattened points.

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    For spitzer boolits in the star, make up a "pusher slug". I made one out of a 1/4 inch bolt shank for my 30 cal boolits. To use, just insert a boolit like normal and push it down in the die, next put your slug in the die and lower the punch to push out the boolit. The slug will fall out with the boolit, just catch it with your left hand for the next cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverjay View Post
    I only have bench space for one sizer at a time.
    You don't need to get rid of a sizer, you need a bigger bench!

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    Wouldn't that be nice!

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check