In an earlier post I mentioned my problem hitting things and a large part of the issue was that I was just trying too hard. Yesterday I went and did a second bit of testing and was feeling pretty good and managed to stay relaxed very well. The shots were still hitting low mostly and then it dawned on me...... I got some notes on the Hawken rifles I got from Doug Knoell last year and decided maybe I should read the notes again. Well what did I find, the powder was Goex FFG (same) and load was 85 grains (I was using 70!) and ball/patch/lube were all the same? Why I went to 70 grains, I have no idea, but upon going back up in powder load, what did I find.......the balls did not drop hardly at all! How about that I said to myself and in the future I plan to look at my note book and notes each time I go to the range, just to be sure!