The danger of off-body carry

[murf205]

What about belt pouches? Any body know of a good secure belt pouch that doesn't take forever to withdraw a gun from?

[w5pv]

I carried a .22 long rifle derringer for years,while working.Would have been fired if came to light but silence and no brag.Don't let your left hand know what the right is doing so to speak.

[Mike Kerr]

I carry on body when I am not at home. Any other form of carry such as car center console is very very rare. It makes me uneasy when I don't have it on my person. There are a very few exceptions in the course of daily life but the more I carry on my person the less the exceptions come into play.

[Artful]

What about belt pouches? Any body know of a good secure belt pouch that doesn't take forever to withdraw a gun from?

https://www.google.com/#q=pistol+con...+carry+pouches

I have tried some but I'm not a lover of the zipper closures on them not quick.
OK, to have zippers on something located in front of you like a fanny pack but not on
my hip or back.

[charlie b]

so what do you guys do when you find the need to enter a facility that does not allow ccw?

you cannot carry on body all the time. better to figure out how to deal with it ahead of time. and pulling the weapon out in the parking lot to lock it in the trunk is worse, imho, than leaving it in the "console" all the time.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

so what do you guys do when you find the need to enter a facility that does not allow ccw?

you cannot carry on body all the time. better to figure out how to deal with it ahead of time. and pulling the weapon out in the parking lot to lock it in the trunk is worse, imho, than leaving it in the "console" all the time.

yes when one is going to a federal building . post office , police station , or school there is no option besides leaving it in the vehicle , but hat is locking it secured and out of sight the gun stays in a controlled space , locked and out of sight

yes I make a point of securing my gun before I arrive and while no one can see what I am doing

[Silver Jack Hammer]

The gym is where vehicles get broken into all the time, I hit the swimming pool and like GREENCOUNTYPETE I pull over at my secluded side of the road and lock my pistol securely away before arriving at the pool. I don't carry while swimming laps. Car prowlers have bragged about watching people arrive at the gym parking lot and place their valuables under the seat. The prowlers just break the window after the victim walks into the gym.

[FergusonTO35]

Careful trip planning. I always stow my piece securely before I arrive.

[bearcove]

I think it depends on where you are and are young kids involved. I live in the country mostly and keep a gun in the truck sometimes. Also when I travel for work. Can't take it in to work so it stays in the truck. I don't concealed carry at all. Open carry when out fishing or hunting,hiking,camping...

[Artful]

What about belt pouches? Any body know of a good secure belt pouch that doesn't take forever to withdraw a gun from?

go to 30 min in to see a belt carry that looks fast

[Blackwater]

I read an article recently by an old marine who was speaking of survival afield, and he made the comment, "belts and pockets are made for survival; backpacks and carry bags are for convenience." That pretty much sums it up for me, and if we CCW, it's for "survival," and NOT for convenience.

[murf205]

I like the magnets on the Bulldog pouch. IF they are strong enough, they would beat a zipper for not having to fumble with. If you ever need to get to your gun you are going to be excited enough without having to fumble with a zipper and maybe having the little tab break off in your fingers when you REALLY need it to open the pouch!!!

[charlie b]

I have an Uncle Mike's fanny pack. The gun compartment is velcro. Doesn't take long to open it. Perfect for those times when my wearing apparel does not permit on body.

I ride a motorcycle a lot. I have experimented with different carry methods and all of them lack a bit. Best so far is a pants pocket. Problem is having to change layers on cold days or having to 'wet down' on hot days. And frequently done where there is no privacy. Still looking for a good carry method.

[Blackwater]

I have one of those type pouches that imitates a cell phone carrier, and it's nowhere near as fast or reliable as pocket carry, so I never use it. I have some neuropathy in my hands, to I tend to stumble more than some would with it, but I'd still take pocket carry any day over that type of carry. If I have my pants on, I've got that little Taurus .380 on me, 24/7, and it does a good job of staying out of the way while still being there in pocket carry. It's the best pistol and method I've found so far to allow me to carry without any real problems involved, but we all have differing builds, talents and preferences. It helps to have pants with the right sized pockets, of course, that are big enough to hold the particular pistol involved and preferred, and yet small enough to keep it from turning upside down as we move about during the day. Lots of things relate to carrying concealed, and it's the minutae that often have the greatest effect on comfort and efficiency of carry. Lots of ways. We just have to find what works best for each of us, really.

[dragon813gt]

I have an Uncle Mike's fanny pack. The gun compartment is velcro. Doesn't take long to open it. Perfect for those times when my wearing apparel does not permit on body.

I ride a motorcycle a lot. I have experimented with different carry methods and all of them lack a bit. Best so far is a pants pocket. Problem is having to change layers on cold days or having to 'wet down' on hot days. And frequently done where there is no privacy. Still looking for a good carry method.

Tank bag. You don't want it on your person in a crash. It will cause more damage then the crash already will. It causes all types of issues w/ getting it onto your person when arriving at your destination. There is no perfect solution for carrying while on a motorcycle.

[xman777]

I carry in a messenger bag. My work policy is such that it is necessary to do so. I wear an IWB holster and transfer to it when I get in my car. This is not always adhered to because what is the sense of wearing a holster when there is no firearm in it. Therefore the pistol gets holstered in a Velcro style rig on the inside of my messenger bag. It's the best way to assure that I have what I need for my own personal security and my company policy is followed.

I don't think a general "Carrying off body is bad" theme is necessary here. To each his own. Some of us cannot carry where and how we want so we have to improvise.

[AggieEE]

I would prefer on body carry but sometimes not possible. As to walking away from your off body carry, I seem to remember a few years ago, I think they were rent a cops, that left their duty guns in public restrooms. I'm a little to paranoid for that. When I have to use a public I check that I'm not leaving anything when I leave, even if I'm not carrying.

[FergusonTO35]

Hmm, never heard of an employer that allowed you to carry a gun in your bag but not on your person in a holster. Pocket and IWB are my favorite ways to carry. They both have times when they are appropriate. IWB is much faster to draw from but not as secure and more of a chance you'll get exposed. Pocket is more secure and incognito but much slower to draw from and really not suited to any pistol bigger than a small .32 or .380.

[Petrol & Powder]

As for carry on a motorcycle, I've been down that path. I've gone through phases of riding and not riding for most of my life and I'm currently in the no motorcycle phase but based on my record, that will change. Carrying on a motorcycle presents some real challenges.
A high ride, strong side, pancake holster that could be covered by my riding jacket was easiest to conceal and switch from riding gear to street clothes but it requires some pre-planning. (you have to carry a second shirt most times)
Pocket carry was the next best option but required that I transfer the gun from my riding jacket to my pants pocket, which wasn't ideal. I could carry a small revolver in my pants pocket but depending on the bike and riding position, that wasn't always ideal when on the bike.
A dedicated cross draw holster sewn into your riding jacket is also an option and transferring that gun to a pocket can been discretely accomplished if you want to take your jacket off at a destination. I had friends that employed that method but I preferred the single strong-side holster carry.

BTW- blued carbon steel guns and all weather riding do not mix! Concealed carry is demanding on the finish of any gun. Add motorcycles, sweat, rain, heat & cold to concealed carry and you'll gain a whole new understanding of rust .
Stainless steel, aluminum alloy, polymer, electroless nickel and other high performance finishes become the minimum.

[xman777]

Our rules state that there can be no "printing" (meaning something beneath the clothing shows through) on our clothing. That includes my Copenhagen can! Keys, Phone Etc... Nothing can stick out of my clothes because I work in a cleanroom environment in a full smock with head and feet covers.