simple Hi-Tek coating

[Moonman]

Oh Trevor, You're such a WICKED PISSAH!

[Avenger442]

Trevor,
I don't think that "liberal use of Naughty words" only exist in the Australian language. The "rest of the free world" also has it's problems with what is often called colorful (pun intended) language.

[Ausglock]

If you don't see me around here anymore, It is because I have been banned for Naughty word usage.

2 Moderators have "Issues" with some of my "terminology"
Bye bye..

[ioon44]

I really hope you don't leave the forum, with out your input I never would never have got the HI-TEK products to work.

I never was offended by your terminology.

[ioon44]

I am STILL having issues with the coating coming off in my 45 and 9mm barrels. First I tried my own coated bullets then ordered from two manufacturers to see if it was my bullets, and I'm still getting the same issue.

Please give me some ideas on what to look for that could be causing this issue. I am at my whits end on this, I have been messing with this off and on for over a year. I wouldn't complain about it too much except everyone states theirs is clean except for carbon and the coating is a royal pain to scrub out of the barrel!

The 45 barrel (1st picture) has coating in the breach of the barrel and nothing at the muzzle after 100 rounds.

The 9 mm barrel (2nd and 3rd pictures) has the coating at the muzzle end of the barrel after 100 rounds.

The 45 is a PT1911 and the 9 mm is a XDM 4.5

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When I was starting with the HI-TEK I had coating bond to the barrel, I found that Kano Kroil oil would loosen the coating with an hour of soaking then a copper brush.

I like to run boolits .002" over bore da and make sure your dies are not swaging the seated boolits.

[oneokie]

If you don't see me around here anymore, It is because I have been banned for Naughty word usage.

2 Moderators have "Issues" with some of my "terminology"
Bye bye..

If one looks just below his user name, you will not see "Banned", so he has not been banned.
This is a privately owned forum open to the public without cost. We have Terms of Service that everyone had to agree to when they joined.
If he wants to play the martyr and fall on his own sword, so be it. The court of public opinion does not enter into the picture.

[NYBushBro]

In the course of a 264-page thread (which I confess I have possibly read 20%), I can only recall possibly a half dozen posts which use the afore-mentioned terminology.

I only hope that this decision is NOT based on a po$$ible economic 'feud' between powder-coating businesses, bullet lube suppliers (and the 'status quo'), and the HI-TEK method...
Remember, the last time I checked, this country is still based upon the 'free enterprise' system (complete with competitors).

For one, I am not interested in red bullets (whatever you call them), but as a cutting-edge development in cast bullet technology, this alternative method at least deserves the benefit-of-the-doubt (with its attendant R&D by members here) to possibly advance a 19th century technology into the 21st century.

E'nuf said.

[Ausglock]

Not playing the Martyr card and not falling on my sword.

Just can't believe the storm in a teacup.

[Michael J. Spangler]

Is anyone using this in 44 mag?
i just started with a 44 mag and would prefer to run hi-tek over any other lube.
Any suggestions on alloy to work with?
i was thinking my modified WW alloy cut with pure lead so it's about
1.25% Tin 1.5% antimony and some arsenic in there. Then I water drop them.
Any suggestions? Critique? Seems like guys on this forumhabe good luck with similar alloy AC or WD with traditionall lubes. Wondering how hi-tek will stack up.
Maybe step it up to 3 thin coats instead of 2?
P.S. I'm using the liquid gold.
Thanks guys!

[Avenger442]

Is anyone using this in 44 mag?
i just started with a 44 mag and would prefer to run hi-tek over any other lube.
Any suggestions on alloy to work with?
i was thinking my modified WW alloy cut with pure lead so it's about
1.25% Tin 1.5% antimony and some arsenic in there. Then I water drop them.
Any suggestions? Critique? Seems like guys on this forumhabe good luck with similar alloy AC or WD with traditionall lubes. Wondering how hi-tek will stack up.
Maybe step it up to 3 thin coats instead of 2?
P.S. I'm using the liquid gold.
Thanks guys!

Michael
Posted some test for my 44 mag rifle back on page 203. Needed to change the powder and go again to see if I could improve those results.
Three coats of the liquid Hi-Tek Gold 1035 and no leading.

I believe that Trevor (Ausglock) was also about to test a 44 mag rifle load. I think he was going to use the new powders.

[Michael J. Spangler]

Awesome thank you. I'll look for that when I get back to my computer and not just on my phone.
Do you know the alloy off hand? Thanks guys!

[Ausglock]

G'day.
Did a bit of testing yesterday.
I cut 2.6.92 alloy 50/50 with Pure Lead.
BHN came out at 11.4 with a lee tester.
I cast a few 100 Lee 200gn RNFP 44 pills.

Coated once with Bronze 530 then sized.
re-coated with 2 more coats and sized again to .430.
I loaded these over 18gn of Alliant 2400 with Magtech Large pistol primers.
Fired out of a 1978 vintage Marlin 1894 Lever gun.
Chrono for these loads was average of 1677fps.Checked out the barrel and it was shiny clean.

Also tried the same bullet, but sized them as bare lead, Then applied a thin first coat and baked.
Sized again and then did 2 more coats and sized again.
Loaded these with 13gn of W540 (HS6). Chrono went 1440Fps average. barrel was shiny clean.
I am still uncertain if sizing bare 9mm or 40cal will be successful as they are high pressure rounds.
But in the 44 and 45 it seems to work.
Will try some 38Spl pills too and see what happens.

[Shotgundrums]

Bronze 530 is a very hard prototype right?

[oneokie]

Fair warning:
Clean up the language or this thread will disappear.

[Avenger442]

Awesome thank you. I'll look for that when I get back to my computer and not just on my phone.
Do you know the alloy off hand? Thanks guys!

My alloy was wheel weight with 2% tin.

[Avenger442]

Fair warning:
Clean up the language or this thread will disappear.

Consider us warned. As a Christian I have a certain sensitivity to the use of the words Jesus Christ and God. As a 40 year veteran of the construction site world I have had the chance to be the moderator of the speech of others. I appreciate your position. But, I would certainly not like to see this thread disappear. I believe that we will consider this "as an opportunity to expand one's vocabulary".

Just out of interest have you tried the Hi-Tek coating? Would like to hear your opinion of this lubricant.

[Ausglock]

Bronze 530 is a very hard prototype right?

Yes it is, my good sir.
I think HITEK is sending some to the USA.
Check with him.

farewell and goodbye
Toodleloo etc etc.

[oneokie]

Consider us warned. I believe that we will consider this "as an opportunity to expand one's vocabulary".

Just out of interest have you tried the Hi-Tek coating? Would like to hear your opinion of this lubricant.

Excellent point on expanding one's vocabulary.
No, I have not tried any of the coatings. Life and its many issues have curtailed my shooting time.
What works for some will not work for others due to many factors.
It will be a loss for the whole forum for this thread to disappear due to the actions of a few.

[Avenger442]

Excellent point on expanding one's vocabulary.
No, I have not tried any of the coatings. Life and its many issues have curtailed my shooting time.
What works for some will not work for others due to many factors.
It will be a loss for the whole forum for this thread to disappear due to the actions of a few.

Sorry you are stuck with the administrative.

[Shotgundrums]

Joe, Trevor,
whats the story of this Bronze series of coating? Are all HT coatings, powder/liquid/colors, destined to this change? If so, this could be that "cure-all" to the multitude of variables, from imperfect guns to alloy, velocity, bullet-size matters