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Thread: .45 SWC load data does not jive

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    .45 SWC load data does not jive

    So I loaded up some .45 acp with cast swc to spec and used starting data only to see my FPS's way to high.

    1.225 oal
    Bullet Dia. 4515 - .452
    Bullet weights avg. 204 grains
    5.8 grains Comercial #1 / universal data used / #1 data is the same starting load 5.8 grains.
    All powder charges are hand weighed.
    Light (very light) crimp just enough for it to slide into a chamber checker.
    I checked for push back and col is same after cycling the ammo so no head spacing issues.

    Velocities should be between 889 - 962 FPS

    What I got was

    lo - 1410
    high - 2185
    avg - 1670

    2185
    1442
    1410
    1451
    1828
    1474
    1897

    Yes there were signs of over pressure so I do not think it was a faulty reading on the chrony.

    Have I missed something?

    Thanks,

    TES
    They call it "common sense". Why is it so uncommon?

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    Something is wrong with your chronograph. You may be a little over pressure but you are not shooting a 200 grain swc any where near 2000 fps out of a 1911.

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    When I saw 2185 I nearly crapped my pants and stopped shooting. Because the 9mm string I got before the .45 string was spot on....I don't get it. The light conditions did get a little darker than when I started shooting but I don't see how that would affect the speeds so much. However the last strings I tried to shoot would not register at all.
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    They call it "common sense". Why is it so uncommon?

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    Given 2000 fps loads would probably blow case heads and wreck the gun completely, there's no doubt your chrono is not working right.

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    Change your battery and/or increase the distance between you and the chronograph.

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    Does your chronograph have a metric function? 2000 fps divided by 2.54 = 787.40 fps. I might have my ft/metric conversion messed up. Perhaps you hit the wrong button on the chrony.

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    Frankly, I am surprised you needed to ask this question. If you did indeed have a load that was running between 1,400 fps and 2,000 fps, you would have would have a damaged if not destroyed handgun.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char-Gar View Post
    Frankly, I am surprised you needed to ask this question. If you did indeed have a load that was running between 1,400 fps and 2,000 fps, you would have would have a damaged if not destroyed handgun.
    I have experienced odd things with chrony's before but never consistently like this. I would maybe get a 2500 fps and then the others where spot on. But the whole string kinda threw me a bit. I was just trying to see if anyone else experienced this before and if they could help. Or if I in fact did something horribly wrong. Never hurts to ask.
    They call it "common sense". Why is it so uncommon?

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    I would replace the battery, then try again.
    Pressure = Velocity, all things considered.

    CPL Lou

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    Did you make sure that the chrono was AT LEAST 10ft from the muzzle? If closer, muzzle blast could interfere with the readings. I am not familiar with Commercial #1 powder, but 5.8 sounds a little hot.

    Bill

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    It uses the same data for universal. Every caliber I have tested using universal data has been spot on....probably just a chrony issue.
    They call it "common sense". Why is it so uncommon?

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