Can't sleep so watching TV. Guy on Bucks of Tecomate is shooting a muzzle loader with a sabot bullet that he said weighed 300 grams. That would be almost 4,630 grains. He of course is confusing grains and grams. These "experts" can be really entertaining when you are laid up for weeks and have read everything in the house twice. It is hard on the TV when they cause you to throw things at it.