I tried to set up with a double disk and cannot drop consistent charges. I'm +/- almost 3 grains. I've tapped on it. Beat it. Shook it. I give up. Has anyone had problems with the Lee and 4064 ?
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I tried to set up with a double disk and cannot drop consistent charges. I'm +/- almost 3 grains. I've tapped on it. Beat it. Shook it. I give up. Has anyone had problems with the Lee and 4064 ?
Revised at post 16
Last edited by multigunner76; 09-21-2014 at 09:57 PM.
BTW. Its a Lee auto disk
Which disk did you have on the bottom, big hole or little hole?
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Never could get a extruded tubular kernel powder to function well in an auto charger mite want to change to a ball powder, maybe you can get it to working, good luck to ya.
Some powders meter a bit more difficult than others. IMR 4064 is one that doesn't meter well in my measures (little logs!). I'm not a disc powder measure user so I can't help you there, but my drum type measures will hold 1/2 grain of 4064 most of the time...
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As far as I can tell the reason people like stick powders is accuracy (temperature insensitivity is mostly about accuracy). A good route might be to trickle 4064 for best accuracy, then use a ball powder for high volume plinking. I fight with extruded powder in measures too.
Throw the charge light and then trickle them up to the desired charge. Yes, it's slower than a snail race, but... it works.
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The size of the grains and density of 4064 make it hard to meter to start with. I have used it but never with a lee powder measure. My harrels throw it very good as does my old Belding and Mull measure. The redding was okay but you definitly wanted to check every charge. The rcbs was about the same as the redding. Maybe a little experimentation with your measure using diffrent techniques. Maybe athe small hole on bottom big on top would allow for better more consistant drops with this powder? Cutting grains will also be an issue.
I can see how it might be difficult to get accurate charges with a doubled up disk measure.
The Lee Perfect Powder Measure does really well with extrudeds, and is certainly inexpensive.
I'm not sure how well it can be adapted to running on a progressive or turret, but it runs well one-at-a-time.
I ordered a powder trickler and a better digital scale.
I use 4064 for loading .308 exclusively. As you and others have said, it is most definately NOT the most co-operative powder so far as metering goes. However, I do appreciate the performance I get from it. If I am running near max loads, then I measure light and trickle up to the full charge for test loads. However, when your charges are somewhere around the mid 40s, I have not found a charge as much as a full grain light to make enough difference to concern myself over.
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4064 is on every shelf around me. It's all I could find. I figured I'd learn to like it. Hopefully the scale I got off flea bay will arrive soon. And at the price I hope the darn thing works.
I use a Lee PPM to measure the logs. I have a number of measures but this Lee is by far the most consistently accurate. Less than $20.00.
Nothing wrong at all with 4064, I actually find it to be more accurate in some cases thank 4895 and at least in my rifle, burns cleaner.
I bought a rcbs digital scale and a Hornady lock n load powder measure. I'm still dropping +/- .5 grain. Is it in the set up of the drop? It is easy to trickle the rest though. Just a question for my piece of mind. I was wanting to load a couple thousand but too time consuming like this. I thinking of testing a few using imr4227 or some SSC. Thoughts?
Depending on the case capacity .5 grain is insignificant.
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I use an AMT/Lyman Autoscale. Very old 1970s or 80s technology.
It is a slow speed and high speed pair of tricklers that feed the pan of a balance beam scale and cut off at zero.
They work perfect for 4064, 4831, SR4759 and 4350.
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I would tend to agree, unless you are just out to see what does or does not matter in your particular situation. If that is the case, load some test rounds and trickel them up to perfect weight. And load a batch that are perfect +/- .25 and see if it really is worth the trouble & preceed from there.
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