No. None for that small of a cartridge. 45 acp 200swcis there a way to verify a squib or double load after complete assembly
No. None for that small of a cartridge. 45 acp 200swcis there a way to verify a squib or double load after complete assembly
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I'm confused now. I've always thought of a squib load as a very light load, as in cat sneeze load. To me a squib load might or might not push the boolit out the bore and is usually unintentionally light. That doesn't make me right, just confused. Do we have a consensus on what a light load is called and what a squib load is?
Rest In Peace My Son (01/06/1986 - 14/01/2014)
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http://www.saami.org/glossary/display.cfm?letter=LLOAD, SQUIB A cartridge or shell which produces projectile velocity and sound substantially lower than normal. May result in projectile and/or wads remaining in the bore.
Thanks. Makes sense and fits the way the term has been used.
Rest In Peace My Son (01/06/1986 - 14/01/2014)
''Assume everything that moves is a human before identifying as otherwise''
The definition that I saw written in an article stated that a squib was a load that was purposed to attain less than fifty percent of factory velocity. As opposed to a reduced recoil load that was between fifty and one hundred percent velocity. I do not recall any mention of the cat sneeze loads in that article. Sorry I cannot nail that down any better. I could not find that one in my library. There are several holes in my collection due to loans not being returned.
You may encounter a stuck boolit a time or too while developing a squib load.
The article was in a Guns Digest published back in the early to mid seventies.
If this definition is Official or not I have no idea. When I speak or write and use the term Squib I mean one that i loaded on purpose. when I say Dud it was a surprise. The boolit may or may not get stuck. When I indent the primer and get no effect I use the term Fail to Fire.
The differences in terms may be regional.
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I'll put in my 2 cents for what it's worth:
Pistol ammo, particularly 45 ACP, will need to be completely "documented" as to brass weight, powder charge, primer weight, boolit weight!
Each of these plays a huge part in the weight of a loaded round and, if you use mixed brass and or do not weigh your castings, you have no way to establish a usable base line to determine load "condition" based solely on the weight of a finished round.
Your Options are:
Pull every round and start over
Or pull a sampling of the batch in question and determine if these are the load you think you put together.
If you were pushing a max load and find a big variation in the pulled rounds pull them all!
If you were using a mid range load and find your OK with the pulled rounds shoot them with care.
Me? I'd pull them if there wasn't ton of them, sample check if there was a ton of them and never back myself in that corner again!
+1 for HeavyMetal's advice, except that you seem to have an idea that the
rounds in question might have a problem. Not suspecting double charges or
missing powder but what charge was it / not documented. Hard to say,
if you normally used a certain load it's probably that load. 500 rounds is a bunch!
I would pull some to check, 10 would give you the load assuming they all
weigh about the same. Any problems noticed - pull more, or all.
I had to pull a box of 50, the crimp wasn't right or seating depth,
something like that. Didn't want to do it but pressure could have been high.
Different but same: a guy from school had sold his gun, gave me a box of
44 mag reloads, labeled with 5 different loads.
I pulled 'em all, not worth the risk!
Always thought a squib load was very reduced, maybe on purpose
or maybe by defect, but not a dud which doesn't fire at all.
But then I'm no expert...
I don't use a loading block, charge one at a time, look in to confirm,
and put it in the press.
Lately, especially with Unique, I weigh each charge. Was advised that
Unique doesn't meter well, they were right.
Stop me before I write a novel here.
Last edited by a.squibload; 08-01-2014 at 03:53 AM.
you can weight them if I didn't reload them I won't shoot them, guns cost to much to chance destroying one over the cost of a shell
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