These are the normal ones. The 452630 being the most accurate.
For the 45 acp i have several boolets, Saeco#062-170gr , #068-200gr, #058-215gr and RCBS 230 -rn
I use the 170 and 200gr boolets about 95% of the time . the 215 gr swc is used for bowling pins, and the 230 rn for full moon clip speed reloading for my 625 revolver.
Unless the gun is properly tuned for a light load. I run a 200 gr SWC at 645 fps in a 1911. It took a lot of work to get it reliable. The action is glass smooth, the extractor is perfect, every place where friction could be reduced from factory production standards had to be addressed.
David
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The 200gr LSWC is probably shot as much as the 230grLRN. Generally no special gun tuning is needed unless you are trying for really low recoil loads. I shoot the 200gr almost exclusively out of my 45s, cheaper, just as accurate, modest recoil even up around 900fps. I am going to give some 165gr a try in a modified gun, see if the recoil level can be dropped to the 9mm, for speed plate shooting. I only need 3"/50ft accuracy.
I've run bullets as heavy as 256gr @ 680fps, just to see if felt recoil for a major load was diff than 230gr @ 770fps, felt pretty much the same. The 1911/45acp was originally designed around a 200gr bullet, most will happily run there if the vel is over 800fps.
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Settled on H&G 68 decades ago. Occasionally, I load some 200 RNHP and some 452460
for pistol competitions where accuracy needs to be max. Pretty much all 200 gr.
Bill
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
I mostly shoot 452374 and the Lee TC 230 gr. thru my Kimber and a new SR1911CMD and try for about 825 fps. I have tried to use 452460 and 452488 in the Ruger, but could not find an OAL that would feed reliably. I have tried Lee's 452 200 RFN in the Ruger some and will probably use it as my 200 gr. bullet in the future. It is a little more comfortable to shoot in the Ruger than 230s and saves lead. 452423 was mentioned. According to the old Lyman manuals, it was designed for the .45 Auto Rim, either by Keith or Harvey Thompson. It would feed in my old Smith 645 auto. That 645 would feed anything. 452423 weighs 245 grs. from my mould, so I am experimenting with it in a Ruger NM Blackhawk. I don't see a need to use anything heavier than 230 grs. in my autos.
Jagdhund
I have good luck with the Lee .452, 230 grain LRN.
I should clarify my preference. After reading some stuff by Bill Wilson who has forgotten more about the 45acp than I will ever learn I switched to 200gr and have not looked back
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I shoot a 160 LEE for steel speed shooting, 200 HG68 clone for general use. I have one finicky 1911 that like a round nose so a 230 for it.
Mostly 68 H&G but I have good luck with the 452423 Lyman.
I shoot the 200gr NOE H&G 68 clone, and the RCBS 201 SWC in my 1911's. Both of these shoot very, very well. I use the LEE 128gr RN boolit in my Model 25, only for faster loading with moon clips. My model 25 also loves the RCBS 185 BB SWC, but I don't use it much because it's a PITA to size & lube.
Oger: What weight does your 452423 throw? I have an old ideal mould that throws a .453 or .454 slug weighing 245 grains from range scrap. I have decided to try for a .45 Colt load with it. If I get time, I may cast some 452423s out of lino and try them in my autos.
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I really like NOE's 452 230hp. They shoot great out of my FNX 45.
Group was at 25yds with the second mag I had ever shot through the FNX.
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Hi Fred,
The 200 gr SWC at 645 fps IS an incredibly light recoil load and won't even move the slide of an out-of-the-box 1911. It's about the same recoil as 2.7 grains of Bullseye behind a 148 grain wadcutter in a 4"-6" .357. The cartridges fall about 18" from the gun. I developed it to use in my steel plate pistol and it worked very well. It takes a while for the boolit to get to the steel (compared to a .22 or open gun) but all ya gotta do is make it ring.
David
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |