Winchester 1886 - rebounding hammers issues - yea or nay

[NSB]

2.774 on mine after reaming using a Rem 405g JSP ogive.

[snowwolfe]

Good info, thanks After the rifle comes in need to find someone to open the throat.

[Clay M]

I own a Miroku Winchester 1886 45-70. Never had any issues with the hammer, but I will reiterate what NSB said above;

"You will find that the gun has no throat at all.NONE."

The only molds (to date) that fit my (unaltered factory) gun have been my RCBS molds:
45-300-FN, , 45-405-FN and a Saeco #017, 350gr FPGC.

I have these same molds and they work fine with the rifle.They shoot accurately, so I am ok leaving the gun unaltered.

[Gunlaker]

Pretty long. I don't remember the numbers, but quite a bit longer than in a Marlin 1895. For instance mine will feed a Speer 350 with an oal of well over 2.6". I can measure one if you like.

Chris.

I just measured my dummy round. The Speer 350gr is a pretty long bullet but has a slender nose. It'll feed and chamber in mine at 2.690" oal. It does have problems with a number of other bullets when loaded to standard length though.

Chris.

[The Nyack Kid]

I have a japchester light weight and had issues with light hammer strikes . Problem got fixed years ago by replacement with a browning hammer

[The Nyack Kid]

If one digs far enough back in the forums you can find discussions on the matter

[muskeg13]

I had misfires/light strikes with both an ELW 1886 and a 1895 bought in 2003. The problem was fairly regular with the 1886. The "Rifle" article came out about this time, recommending shortening the hammer strut. After following the recommendation, the problem was fixed. Fortunately, I haven't had much issue with the nonexistent throat with cast boolits (325-330 Gould and the 405 RCBS, which drops them at 415-420). I did have to seat 400 gr Speer SPs pretty deep, but I don't shoot them anymore.

You should be able to look up the hammer strut shortening procedure elsewhere on this website if you encounter problems with light primer strikes. Maybe Miroku solved the problem in rifles of more recent manufacture?

[Just Duke]

Here you go. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...N-(RCBS-82054)

This is a clone of the RCBS #82054 45-500-FN
We will be running this like a inventory run







We will be running 2 cavity, 4 cavity, 5 cavity, RG2 and RG4 Aluminum
GC or PB, but only one or the other per mould (no mixing GC and PB)
We offer Blank RG pins on our website for you that like to make your own.
Top punch, wrenches and sprue lube are extras now if you want them

Prices will be our standard website prices ( www.noebulletmoulds.com )
2 cavity $79.00
4 cavity $92.00
5 cavity $99.00
RG2 cavity $103.00
RG4 cavity $133.00
Lyman/RCBS style Top Punch $5.00
Saeco style Top Punch $7.50
Mould Wrenches / Sprue Lube $2.50
RG2 blank pin set $4.50
RG4 blank pin set $9.00

Will run this as soon as we get 15 signed up and we get the tooling in.
Will have them listed on our website as a inventory item as soon as we have them ran
So you can use Pay-Pal, Credit Card or Check / Money order
Post a "I want" and receive a 5% discount off the website
We will PM a discount code for you to use at check out

If you have question - Visit our website or PM me

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[square butte]

Kid - Where ya been? Welcome back.

[Just Duke]

I have a japchester light weight and had issues with light hammer strikes . Problem got fixed years ago by replacement with a browning hammer

Yea welcome back and thanks again fr the bullets you sent me 6 years ago.

[snowwolfe]

Cycled some dummy rounds through mine today, and yep, basically no throat. Rounds were only 2.5 inches long and you could see where several had the bullet seated even deeper after cycling.
I need to find a good smith to recut the throat, any suggestions? Would like to find someone local if I could around the Colorado Springs area.