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Thread: Preferred "warheads" for the .454 Casull?

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    Preferred "warheads" for the .454 Casull?

    Doing some early pondering on mold designs for upper-end loads. I figure for light plinkers, there are plenty of plain-base Peacemaker molds to choose from. For the hotter stuff, however, I'm curious as to what's being used. Any gas-checked 300-ish grainers out there? If there's something akin to the NOE hollow point / solid nose pin designs, better still.
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    I can highly recomend the LBT 300gr gc LFN mould! extremely accurate fror my FA revolvers !
    I also have the Mountian Mould 260gr gc lfn & 275gr TC

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    In my Ruger Super Redhawlk 454
    I shoot the Lee 300 gr GC boolit
    Not at or even close to max
    Closer to a +P 45 Colt load

    But it shoots well and the deer die well with the load

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    LBT 300 LFN for me too. It's about all I ever shoot out of mine.
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    My 45 Colt NMBH loves the Lee 300gr @1,200fps, I have it in a 6 cavity, drops like rain, big heavy thumping rain.

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    Lee for sure. the meplat is ridiculous.

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    The heavyweights from both LBT and Accurate are tops in my FA .454 Casull, the 340 gr. FP GC that I got from Tom at Accurate is tops.

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    I've cast & loaded one batch of RD's 460-290 thumpers. Hope to shoot it tomorrow. If looks could kill I wouldn't have to fire a shot with this bruiser.
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    Have to agree with ya MT Chambers. My FA Casull also has a definite addiction to the LBT Heavies. Don't have an Accurate mold yet......
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    Ye Gads! Accurate is running Casull-spec slugs to 360 grains! Photon torpedos, anyone?

    Any thoughts regarding the "happy medium" slug weight for the round? Kinda the .454 version of the 240-250 grain .44 Magnum that balance the punch with some reach?
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    I size down the NOE 460-350, on top of 26.5 lilgun it hits harder than a 45/70 load of the same boolit, and it still shoots to sub 2" @ 50yd.

    I have a MP 460122 HP GC mold I might try. It's a gas checked copy of a lyman 457122. should shoot pretty well also.
    And you can hide a .223 bullet in the HP!
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    I am in preference to a heavier LFN style design myself with a few tweeks to the nose profile/nose length as I designed my own 310 and 345 grainers. If you don't go custom it is really hard to beat the Lee gas check 300 grain round flat nose design which comes in closer to 320 grains when all dressed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigslug View Post
    Ye Gads! Accurate is running Casull-spec slugs to 360 grains! Photon torpedos, anyone?

    Any thoughts regarding the "happy medium" slug weight for the round? Kinda the .454 version of the 240-250 grain .44 Magnum that balance the punch with some reach?
    IMO, the "happy medium" is 300 grains.

    I'm pretty confident I could get a 425 grain ranchdog bullet to stabilize just fine if the gun uses a 1 in 16 twist. Near but not at max of H110 should shoot quite nice out to 100 yards easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXGunNut View Post
    I've cast & loaded one batch of RD's 460-290 thumpers. Hope to shoot it tomorrow. If looks could kill I wouldn't have to fire a shot with this bruiser.
    I'm also looking at this as I have 500 of them I got from Carolina Bullets. I've also pre-ordered the TLC452-330-RF to try and have some of the Beartooth 340 gr LFN Gas Checked. I am looking for some of the Lee 300 g cast also but at the moment the Montana Bullet is pretty back logged. I'm looking to try these in a new Taurus Raging Bull I just got but still waiting for dies and brass to show up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozone View Post
    I size down the NOE 460-350, on top of 26.5 lilgun it hits harder than a 45/70 load of the same boolit, and it still shoots to sub 2" @ 50yd.

    I have a MP 460122 HP GC mold I might try. It's a gas checked copy of a lyman 457122. should shoot pretty well also.
    And you can hide a .223 bullet in the HP!
    Sorry Frozone but a .454 will not hit harder than the 45/70, look at the 2 loaded rounds side by side.

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    Look at the 2 pressures side by side - I get more velocity out of the 454 than the 45/70. same weight bullet with more velocity = harder hit, simple math.

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    LBT 300 LFN for me too. Over H110. Warhead indeed!!! I also like the Hornady 250 gr SST (Jword) and to a much lesser extend, the Hornady 300 gr XTP Magnum (J). I shoot with a 20" H&R Classic Carbine that has been reamed to 454 and have chronoed the 250 gr SST at 2150 fps. I would guess the LBT 300 LFN is in the 1900 fps range. No leading. Ridiculous impact on a steel gong at 100 yards. Quite accurate. Will be my black bear round this coming autumn.

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    I shoot the LBT 325 gr LFN over a max charge of H-110 in my 454 Casull from a Rossi 92 hits like a pissed off mule!

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    I shoot the Miha copy of the RCBS 45 270-SAA at 289gr for plinking, and a 325gr FNGC from Mountain Molds for serious work. The 325 does very well from 900fps up to 1500fps from my FA, the 289gr bullet is scary accurate up to 1200fps.

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    Hmmm. . .interesting choices. Liking the basic "ridiculous meplat" concept seen on the Lee and others. Also pondering some of the more radiused Accurate noses. With the latter, thinking possibly better downrange flight range characteristics, but then I start thinking "Downrange flight characteristics are what your .30-06 is for".

    Has anyone bothered to nose-pin one of these monoliths for hollowpoints? The notion of a @325 solid and @300HP dropping out of the same mold has some initial appeal. How do the alloys needed for .454 pressures perform as hollowpoints? I'm thinking there might be brittleness issues?
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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