If ammo and primers dried up completely

[Sprue]

Sprue,

Is that a BLACK helecopter in your avatar???

Regards,

Stew

With all the itching and burning it sure fells like a black helo.

[delmar]

There will always be a way. One thing I would be sure to do is keep prayed up.

Amen!

[delmar]

Next thing we will be seeing is Ebay ads "Once Fired Primers".

Michael Grace

That would be funny!

[shdwlkr]

Well I have read all through this thread and must say that my choice is not listed. I would go back to a cross bow and long bow. I don't think many would want to get hit with a 1 pound bolt out of a 450 pound pull cross bow. No you don't pull that back with your arm, unless you are a really strong person.
I have been playing with muzzle loaders for around 45 years now so I have learned a very few things. May go into flintlocks but the delay in ignition, and double smoke clouds is a dead give away if you are fighting for life and home.
I have slowed down my shooting of late and calibers, switched to lead bullets instead of copper ones and work more at making each shot count.
I don't see me being a Rambo type as I have done my time in the military and only see me as defending my own anymore and that shouldn't be to hard.
As to making your own primers, not me because of the risks and chemicals needed, same goes for making my own powders I have read a lot about the issues that the commercial makers of powders both black and smokeless and yes I did ask really deep questions with out getting into the mixture used as I really don't care how much of what goes into what. More interested in the chemical make up of each chemical and its bad side.
I know many have made their own black powder and had no bad accidents yet. If you think it won't happen to you go read what happened in Mossic Pa where they made black powder when things went wrong a few years ago.
Most of all I don't see it being an issue in my life time. I think we will loose possession of our firearms before we loose components. If the country is still in tack at the end of the rain of the current Puppet want a be Dictator and can get someone who really does love America and stands up to the bleeding hearts who don't know **** we just might be still Free.
If not then the Blue Helmets will be on American soil and we will see if we are still Minutemen or Minutemice.
I really hope it only goes to the power of the vote but these days anything is possible to happen and things can go in any direction.

[Brick85]

If blue helmets ever show up around here, they'll quickly become collector's items. The ones without extra holes will sell for more.

I think there are too many unregistered guns that no one knows about for the government to take them all away. Most guns, maybe, but there will be plenty of newly illegal ones to keep the politicians and blue helmets in fear.

[shdwlkr]

brick 85
I really don't think much will get past them if they come for our firearms. I really think that if you don't give them up you will be shot right there and then they we tear your house and everything apart for that matter to get them. This will not be a kinder gentler kind of action. It will be a dictator showing who is boss and he has all the new toys and tools to do it.
Firearm owners will be turned in just like the Jews were turned in to the Nazi's, don't you ever think this will be a choice of you putting holes in blue helmets or giving up your firearms, if you have something they want or think you do torture will be used to get the answers they want and then they will leave you to die or just plain shoot you with one of your own firearms. We have a Socialist and Marxist as Pres, he hates America and so do his dogs in Congress and all of his cabinet, they want to see an end to America. It would not surprise me to find out he gets his marching orders from Osama bin Laden himself.

[Brick85]

If those who have registered guns turn in those registered guns, there will still be plenty of unregistered guns that no one knows about. And unless they intend to torture every person and rip apart every house, they won't get them all.

Of course, they might very well torture every person and rip apart every house.

[part_timer]

[QUOTE=shdwlkr;755743We have a Socialist and Marxist as Pres, he hates America and so do his dogs in Congress and all of his cabinet, they want to see an end to America. It would not surprise me to find out he gets his marching orders from Osama bin Laden himself.[/QUOTE]

What I can't figure out is why so many people are blind to it or just plain don't give 2 hoots and a hollar about loosing our freedoms. Perhaps it is because they don't understand what true freedom is about. All they know is the government entitlement program version of freedom.

[BOOM BOOM]

Hi,
got into muzzle loaders long ago.

[Tazman1602]

Two words: "Foxfire books"

............and the Mujahadin kept the Soviet army at large for over ten years with 100 year old rifles. Not to say Osama binladin and his ragheads are honorable at all because they're NOT, but I have to admire a bunch of ragheads that would defend AND NOT CREATE TERRORISM FOR OTHER COUNTRIES BUT DEFEND THEIR OWN LAND from the best armed Nation around for ten years on Camels with old rifles.

...........Long live the 30-30..................................an AMERICAN dream......................

"one man fighting for his home is worth ten paid mercenaries..........."

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Soooo, worst case scenario, the supply of components is somehow "dried up" permanently. You all do realize there is a nice supply of firearms and ammunition in every patrol car in the country?

Less severe scenario; I have flintlocks and about 2000 pounds of lead and lead alloy. I have made black powder a couple times before. I also own a compound bow that will shoot 400gr hunting weight arrows over 340fps. Five of them in a 3" group at 60 yards and absolutely noiseless.

Just buy a couple handguns and a rifle and shotgun at the next gunshow.

Rich

[Tazman1602]

Just buy a couple handguns and a rifle and shotgun at the next gunshow.

Rich

That should be a country song, kinda sounds like one now: "I got a shotgun a rifle and two handguns and a country boy can survive...."

Isn't it something like that? <GRIN>

[kingstrider]

I'd probably start building potato guns then. You can get a lot of range using butane!

[Jayhem]

I'd stop shooting till a reasonable way to make your own was found.

If guns become as illegal as they have in Europe you can be sure I'll be training at knife throwing and sword fighting.

[405]

First try to come up with a reasonable sub for muzzleloader powder. Maybe even match heads
But in the end maybe go completely primitive!

[1874Sharps]

I, for one, believe there are a number os states that will never go along with confiscation of arms and ammo. I know Texas will not (or at least I think I do). There are many of you who, like me, took an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and we hold true to our oath. May God grant that the extreme of which we speak will never materialize, but it may. I will do what is within my power on all fronts to keep my oath. It gives me tremendous peace to know that the God I serve is the Sovereign of the universe and all will work to His glory. The duty is ours, the results are in His hands.

[Tom308]

There will always be weapons available. They can be supplied by our military or police. We may even get some from obama's interpol. There's also the mexican or canadian army.

[wallenba]

I guess I'd look into those high power air guns.

[Boris]

with all the technology we got today, there is no way primers would dry up, and if they did, there are ways of making them. It's all about cost and opportunity, if regular primers would become scarce and expensive, there would be mini factories making them.

[Houndog]

We ALL know this is a "what if" thread and the garbage in the whitehouse will probably at some point try to severely limit firearms ownership or tax ammunition out of existance. ALL WILL FAIL! Try to limit the sales of firearms! There are bunches and bunches of home shop machinists that can, and would turn out guns, after all they are FAR simpler to make than some model steam engine. Tax ammo out of existance? How many of us already "roll our own" and how many chemists, ETC are shooters that could make powder and primers? Keep in mind we're talking black market here and being legal doesn't count! American ingenuity is alive and well and where there's a will there will always be a way.