WC846/.223, please enlighten an ignorant redneck.

[Blazin]

Good info on 844 and 846: http://www.223reloads.com/home/223-5...g/wc-846-loads

[Jason.223]

few other calibers with WC846

30-06 150 sp. 48.5 win. win LR. 2654 fps. slow light load
45-70 405 sp. 62 win. win LRM. 1882 fps
45-70 350 sp 65 win. win LRM. 1935 fps
303 brit. 147fmj. 46 win. win LRM. 2550 fps
243 70 sp. 41 rem. win LRM. 3497 fps....TO HOT IN MY RIFLE


this is from that web site....but That is my data that I have posted in other forums over the years...how funny

Jason

[MtGun44]

I have to strongly diagree with "chronograph is a fools errand".

This is dangerous information. Using a chrono to compare your velocities obtained with
known loads or factory ammo and your loads with similar bullets is extremely useful to
ensure that you are not exceeding normal velocity limits with similar powders and
bullet weights.

There is no free lunch, if you see that the listed max load for a canister grade powder
with similar burning speed to your surplus gives you 3100 fps, and you are getting 3300
fps with your surplus powder and the same cases and bullets, you can bet you have
higher than max pressures even with no pressure signs. Velocity does not come for
free magically.

Bill

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

this is a great old thread.
I recently purchased some WC846
8 lbs for $94
hi-techammo.com

[Shiloh]

25.3 grains of WC846 gives 2970 fps from Federal brass, out of a DPMS 20" barrel, with Hornady 52 gr. BTHP bullets.

Shiloh

[Shiloh]

this is a great old thread.
I recently purchased some WC846
8 lbs for $94
hi-techammo.com

It's where I got mine. Down to the end of mine.

Ripsaw

[swheeler]

JonB; just remember lot to lot variation can be quite large. All the lots of WC846 that I have used were faster than cannister BLC-2, even if marginally. It is a very good powder for many cartridges and was a deal at 64.00/8#

Anywhere from 25-27 grs should be fine with 55 gr bullet, as always start low and work up. Heres some 10 shot strings from 3-9-03, 20*F

55 gr WWfmj,LC brass, wsr primer

27.5 gr blc-2 2972 fps
27.5 gr wc846 3168 fps lot ra-l-85059
26.0 gr wc844 3044 fps, 27.0 gr 3155 fps lot tali 01-42

9-8-2004, 54*F 52 gr Horn bthp match, ww brass, wsr primer
26.5 gr wc846, 3275 fps lot 50/50 blended

9-8-04 , 40 gr speer, ww brass, wsr primer
27.5 gr wc846, 3411 fps

6-20-06 64*F, ww brass, cci 400 primer
70 gr speer, 24.5 wc846, 2707 fps

[MK111]

I have been using WC846 for over 20 yrs. Always used load data on BLC2. Shoots less than 1 MOA in my custom AR's. It shoots even better in my custom AR15 223AE. In the 223AE I got a 300 FPS increase. That is mid-range 22-250 speed and in a 13 lb. auto rifle with basicly no recoil there is no followup lag on 2nd shoots on PD's.
The same load in my Rem 700 shot around 1/2-3/4 MOA.
When I bought my last batch of WC846 I keep 100 lbs and the military sealable keg it came in. In those days I probaly brokered 400 lbs for our gunclub members. No one had a problem with it.
Now the magnum (H110- W296) pistol powder was another problem as some cheap SOB's were told a 100% load was required ( as with W296) and they went cheap and tried reduced loads on the $1.50 powder to save money. They had stuck bullets in the barrel. Luckly those guys went together on a batchs and I wouldn't return any money as I didn't sell it to them directly.
The pistol powder worked great in the 357 Mag and 30 carbine. The 30 carbine would shoot the RCBS 30 SIL 165 gr. bullet at 1500 FPS in my TC Contender at less than 1 MOA. This was off the bench with a 8 power Weaver rifle scope I used for 100 yrds.
Frank

[Shiloh]

I like 844 a tad better than 846 in the smaller cartridges velocity wise (.222, .223) but 846 has been extremely consistent shot to shot at slightly less velocity.

I ordered the 844. There was a mix-up at Pats. They sent the 846.
He offered me 50% refund and apologized profusely.
It worked for me, I have done further business with them, and the rifles don't know the difference. My only complaint, and neither Pats or Bartlett have any control, but the glory days of cheap quality powder are for the most part, gone.

Shiloh

[Franklin Zeman]

I use a Ruger #3 for my .223 loads. Use 846 with CCI450 and R-P cases. For the unfamiliar, a Ruger #3 is a single shot, very strong action, with a 22 inch barrel. It is quite similar to the Ruger #1, but the cheaper/plainer carbine. No longer offered by Ruger. Using a Hornady 55 gr soft point see below. My Chrono on the 846 loads.
846 26gr-3100 fps
26.5grs-3182 fps
27gr-3322fps
Hodgon lists 748-27.5grs-3309FPS
BLC-2-27.5grs-3313fps
Lymans lists AA2460-26.3grs-3182
748-27.8grs-3228fps
H-335-27grs-3270fps

The Lyman and Hodgdon loads are all max!!!!!!!!!!!!! It seems like 846 is in the same general area as the other powders, but lots DO VARY, so work up from below!!!!!!!!