Carbide sizer die vs, steel die and lubing

[gester01]

Good info Roy
I'm new around here and this is the 1st time I've seen your ID. I like it!

[Slick Pilot]

30 carbine is a tapered case so it requires lube in both steel and carbide dies. In the carbine carbide die the carbide is full length not a ring at the base like straight wall cases.

I have sized hundreds of 30 carbine cases without lube and without any indication that a case wanted to get stuck.

Maybe I have just been lucky, but that is my observation.

[Artful]

Wow, what a diverse load of information.

IMHO,
Carbide dies for pistols are worth the money, Carbide expander balls in rifle dies are good too.

Lube on new cases is a very good idea in a carbide pistol die. I lube about every 5th or 6th case to make operations smooth on my dillon's when loading pistols and lube every case for rifles.

If you get your Lee collet die adjusted correctly it makes a nicely sized case, but can be a bit of a pain to get adjusted the first time you set it up.

30 carbine does like lube, but my dies take them down to close to factory spec's - if you had a tight chamber and loose die so it didn't have to work the cases much maybe you could get by without lube but not with my dies.