http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/28...liber-pistols/
My favorite autoloading pistol and US made.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/28...liber-pistols/
My favorite autoloading pistol and US made.
Judan
the one I carried in the Rangers in Vietnam never failed me. If it had...
Good to see old slabsides getting back in action.
Rich
Sua Sponte
I wondered about the gummint's decision to go 9MM. Took 'em long enough to figger it out, ya' think?
I agree that the 45 is a big improvement over the 9mm, but I actually think that a .40 cal or 10mm is really the best choice that is currently available. The punch is pretty close to being as good as a .45, but the useful range & flatness of trajectory are a little better.
I like the 1911 design overall. It is the one that I would choose for my own personal use if I were going into a military battle zone.
Now, maybe those guys will also start to look at the rifle caliber they are using. I think that something around the size of the 6-mm Lee that they once used in small numbers is a far better choice than the dainty little .22 that they now have as a standard issue item.
It is VERY GOOD to see that they are going with Made in USA on this one. That isn't always the case for "American" military hardware anymore.
It's too bad that only around 5% of the Marines are slated to get these new 1911s, but at east it's a start.
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Yea the other ones might get a little bigger, but the 45 ain't gonna get any smaller.The punch is pretty close to being as good as a .45,
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Very cool! My nephew was a Marine Captain and really wanted to carry his 1911
instead of the M9 in Afghanistan.
Think how weird it is that 101 years later, there are 20+ companies making 1911 variants
and the military is still buying them for combat.
Awesome!
Bill
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
John Browning and his brother Matt, would be proud!
They would be much better served with a Glock 22!
I'll take a 1911 anyday over a Glock. You can shoot cast in them a lot easier!
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And if you want a double-stack 9mm, than buy a Hi-Power!
I Cast my Boolits, Therefore I am Happy.
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Yes, & the 10mm may get a little slower, but the .45 will not get any faster. We can debate the fast & small vs. slow & big option on & on. It's been done in the past & it will be done again in the future.
I happen to think that the 10mm is a better choice for military use in a 1911 because it is more versatile, having a longer effective range & I believe that it has ample knockdown power. That is just my personal opinion & I realize that it is not necessarily the absolute truth in all situations.
I am very happy that the us is improving their caliber back to what it used to be & putting it back into the well proven & American made 1911 type launching device.
“an armed society is a polite society.”
Robert A. Heinlein
"Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocabatur, cum pars servitutis esset."
Publius Tacitus
1911 over a Glock any day. Marines know what they are about.
Bill
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
I let out a an UUUUH-RAH when I saw that....
I sent a 1911 over with my boy in Iraq and he was constantly begged to sell it.
The forsaken has been re-welcomed into the Corps.
Thank God the contract went to Colt and not some off-shore ****-house.
Semper Fidelis
Wasn't there also pressure from NATO back then to standardize the calibre with the rest of the allies. 9mm
The United States is only a big fan of standardization if everybody else picks what we have.Wasn't there also pressure from NATO back then to standardize the calibre with the rest of the allies.
Case in point, the Fiat G.91 fighter which won the competition in 1953 as the NATO "standard" fighter. I never saw one in American markings.
But don't worry. If we go to war, we will make plenty of everything for everybody. That's what we do.
Don't everyone get too excited; it isn't like they're replacing the M9 with this gun '...as many as 12,000 Marines...' will get the new pistol. That's far from being the entire Corps.
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Problem is the blast and recoil of 10mm. 45 is easier to shoot. And you gotta be gooood to take advantage of the 10 long range.
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