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    New Marine 1911 45

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/28...liber-pistols/
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    the one I carried in the Rangers in Vietnam never failed me. If it had...

    Good to see old slabsides getting back in action.

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    I wondered about the gummint's decision to go 9MM. Took 'em long enough to figger it out, ya' think?

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    I agree that the 45 is a big improvement over the 9mm, but I actually think that a .40 cal or 10mm is really the best choice that is currently available. The punch is pretty close to being as good as a .45, but the useful range & flatness of trajectory are a little better.

    I like the 1911 design overall. It is the one that I would choose for my own personal use if I were going into a military battle zone.

    Now, maybe those guys will also start to look at the rifle caliber they are using. I think that something around the size of the 6-mm Lee that they once used in small numbers is a far better choice than the dainty little .22 that they now have as a standard issue item.

    It is VERY GOOD to see that they are going with Made in USA on this one. That isn't always the case for "American" military hardware anymore.

    It's too bad that only around 5% of the Marines are slated to get these new 1911s, but at east it's a start.
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    The punch is pretty close to being as good as a .45,
    Yea the other ones might get a little bigger, but the 45 ain't gonna get any smaller.
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    Very cool! My nephew was a Marine Captain and really wanted to carry his 1911
    instead of the M9 in Afghanistan.

    Think how weird it is that 101 years later, there are 20+ companies making 1911 variants
    and the military is still buying them for combat.

    Awesome!

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    John Browning and his brother Matt, would be proud!

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    They would be much better served with a Glock 22!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym1a2 View Post
    They would be much better served with a Glock 22!



    I doubt that

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    I'll take a 1911 anyday over a Glock. You can shoot cast in them a lot easier!
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    And if you want a double-stack 9mm, than buy a Hi-Power!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gray wolf View Post
    Yea the other ones might get a little bigger, but the 45 ain't gonna get any smaller.
    Yes, & the 10mm may get a little slower, but the .45 will not get any faster. We can debate the fast & small vs. slow & big option on & on. It's been done in the past & it will be done again in the future.

    I happen to think that the 10mm is a better choice for military use in a 1911 because it is more versatile, having a longer effective range & I believe that it has ample knockdown power. That is just my personal opinion & I realize that it is not necessarily the absolute truth in all situations.

    I am very happy that the us is improving their caliber back to what it used to be & putting it back into the well proven & American made 1911 type launching device.
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    1911 over a Glock any day. Marines know what they are about.

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    I let out a an UUUUH-RAH when I saw that....

    I sent a 1911 over with my boy in Iraq and he was constantly begged to sell it.

    The forsaken has been re-welcomed into the Corps.

    Thank God the contract went to Colt and not some off-shore ****-house.

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    Wasn't there also pressure from NATO back then to standardize the calibre with the rest of the allies. 9mm

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    Wasn't there also pressure from NATO back then to standardize the calibre with the rest of the allies.
    The United States is only a big fan of standardization if everybody else picks what we have.

    Case in point, the Fiat G.91 fighter which won the competition in 1953 as the NATO "standard" fighter. I never saw one in American markings.

    But don't worry. If we go to war, we will make plenty of everything for everybody. That's what we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMinPHX View Post
    Yes, & the 10mm may get a little slower, but the .45 will not get any faster. We can debate the fast & small vs. slow & big option on & on. It's been done in the past & it will be done again in the future.

    I happen to think that the 10mm is a better choice for military use in a 1911 because it is more versatile, having a longer effective range & I believe that it has ample knockdown power. That is just my personal opinion & I realize that it is not necessarily the absolute truth in all situations.

    I am very happy that the us is improving their caliber back to what it used to be & putting it back into the well proven & American made 1911 type launching device.
    I agree the 10mm would be a great choice, and it would be great of 10mm fans. We might see broader market acceptance if it made it into military holsters.

    My personal carry guns are 10mm and are cerakoted. One of them is a double stack 1911 (para _p-16 conversion).

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    Don't everyone get too excited; it isn't like they're replacing the M9 with this gun '...as many as 12,000 Marines...' will get the new pistol. That's far from being the entire Corps.
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    Problem is the blast and recoil of 10mm. 45 is easier to shoot. And you gotta be gooood to take advantage of the 10 long range.

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    Special Ops types and Marines COMBAT MOS should be able to handle it. I suspect they want 45acp and threaded barrells.

    Quote Originally Posted by Single Six View Post
    Problem is the blast and recoil of 10mm. 45 is easier to shoot. And you gotta be gooood to take advantage of the 10 long range.

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