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    unique loads for the 480 Rug

    I have tried 13.0 gr and 10.0 gr on Unique in my Super Redhawk
    The 13 I had to beat the empties out and the 10 gr load had stiff extraction as well
    I am puzzled the loads are book loads
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    Thats odd, what boolit?

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    Are your chambers rough?

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    For a 400 gr cast boolit with GC, Quick Load lists the following;

    480 Ruger Pmax pressure: 47,862 psi

    400 gr GC boolit with a seat depth of 0.525 inches (QL SAAMI OAL)
    10.0 grs Unique: 36,754 psi
    13.0 grs Unique: 64,273 psi

    400 gr GC boolit with a seat depth of 0.435 inches (my design)
    10.0 grs Unique: 28,966 psi
    13.0 grs Unique: 48,913 psi

    Hopefully you were using a much lighter boolit. Here's a Lee 476, 325 gr GC;

    Lee 325 gr GC with a seat depth of 0.447
    10.0 grs Unique: 25,892 psi
    13.0 grs Unique: 44,460 psi

    Even the light weight Lee boolit is nearing max with 13 grains.

    The SRH can certainly handle being a bit above SAAMI pressure, but I wouldn't be pushing it with a fast powder like Unique. Your best served with a slower powder like WW296 or H110 if you want to run them hard. Unique doesn't measure all that well to be pushing on it. 8.5 to 10.0 grains is a nice midrange load.

    You also have to watch the brass used. New Hornady brass is about dead soft. It will stick even moderate loads when new. Once work hardened a bit by 3-4 firings, it comes around to what SL brass is new.

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    thanks Bruce and Lefty
    I do not recall the boolit I was using
    but I was in search of a easy to shoot light load
    either I read the info wrong or I used the wrong boolit
    Hit em'hard
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    If you're "working up a load", you're doing it wrong


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    The charts say Trail Boss is a light load. You may want to consider that.

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    Titegroup also looks to be a light load also.

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    I have seen some bad juju with titegroup. I would not recommend it in large capacity cases...

    The Unique will work, just needs to drop it back a bit I think. Hard to say without knowing what boolit.

    And this kids, is exactly why you work UP a load. Strange things happen.

    Now, I am also guilty as charged of picking a book load and running with it. But I learned long ago to only load a VERY FEW of anything before trying them. Watched a buddy load about 350 38spls with the decapping pin in the progressive just bumping the primer enough to knock out the firing pin dent. Didn't catch it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subsonic View Post
    I have seen some bad juju with titegroup. I would not recommend it in large capacity cases...

    The Unique will work, just needs to drop it back a bit I think. Hard to say without knowing what boolit.

    And this kids, is exactly why you work UP a load. Strange things happen.

    Now, I am also guilty as charged of picking a book load and running with it. But I learned long ago to only load a VERY FEW of anything before trying them. Watched a buddy load about 350 38spls with the decapping pin in the progressive just bumping the primer enough to knock out the firing pin dent. Didn't catch it either.
    Wow, thats sucks....a lot of time spent for dud rounds.

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    I have used 10 grains of Unique with 400 gr. Lee boolits.
    One thing I noticed,when your looking at the load manual,look at the PRESSURES.
    I havent had any troubles with Titegroup,its sold for large capacity cases,BUT the powder charge may be low but the pressures are a pretty good ways up there. There are no "light" loads other than Trailboss.

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    I have heard lots of good things about HS6 in the big cases for easy shooting loads. I have played with it very little in my .475 using a load Mellonhead gave me of 14gr behind a 400gr Keith style he designed and a CCI300 spark plug. Obviously the .480 has less capacity and something like 10gr and work up to maybe 12gr sounds reasonable.

    I plan on playing with Longshot someday and want to try some 800x, but 800x meters like cornflakes, so even if it is the holy grail, I probably will use something else.
    Last edited by subsonic; 04-24-2012 at 10:36 AM. Reason: 400gr keith, not 420gr DOH!

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    I'd like to find a load with HS-6 and a 400-420gr boolit. I've seen HS-6 perform really well in my .44spl, .44mag snubby Alaskan, and my .45 colt. But 14.0gr in the .480 sounds pretty low considering I throw 13.0 in the .45 colt.
    It would be great if Hodgdon would list some data for the .480 with some HS-6.

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    I use 14 grains of HS6 under a 400 grain SWC in my Linebaugh. I get right at 1150 fps. I have been using it in my 500 WE with excellent results also. 99% of my loading is done with HS6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellonhead View Post
    I use 14 grains of HS6 under a 400 grain SWC in my Linebaugh. I get right at 1150 fps. I have been using it in my 500 WE with excellent results also. 99% of my loading is done with HS6.

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    As in .475 Linebaugh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABore View Post
    For a 400 gr cast boolit with GC, Quick Load lists the following;

    480 Ruger Pmax pressure: 47,862 psi

    400 gr GC boolit with a seat depth of 0.525 inches (QL SAAMI OAL)
    10.0 grs Unique: 36,754 psi
    13.0 grs Unique: 64,273 psi

    400 gr GC boolit with a seat depth of 0.435 inches (my design)
    10.0 grs Unique: 28,966 psi
    13.0 grs Unique: 48,913 psi

    Hopefully you were using a much lighter boolit. Here's a Lee 476, 325 gr GC;

    Lee 325 gr GC with a seat depth of 0.447
    10.0 grs Unique: 25,892 psi
    13.0 grs Unique: 44,460 psi

    Even the light weight Lee boolit is nearing max with 13 grains.

    The SRH can certainly handle being a bit above SAAMI pressure, but I wouldn't be pushing it with a fast powder like Unique. Your best served with a slower powder like WW296 or H110 if you want to run them hard. Unique doesn't measure all that well to be pushing on it. 8.5 to 10.0 grains is a nice midrange load.

    You also have to watch the brass used. New Hornady brass is about dead soft. It will stick even moderate loads when new. Once work hardened a bit by 3-4 firings, it comes around to what SL brass is new.
    BA Bore, can you run HS-6 and a 420gr LFN PB boolit thru your Quick-Loads for .480 Ruger and see what it says please.

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    Yeah, 475 Linebaugh.

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    My SRH had very rough chambers and made even the lightest load have "sticky" extraction. I polished the chambers with some scothbrite that I wound around an old bronze brush that I chucked in my electric screwdriver. After that even the loads that were well above max had the cases falling out of the cylinder by their own weight and the chambers were shiny clean even after a 100 rounds shot.
    Shoot from a rest at 25/50/100 yards, then post your groupings. That is the only way to compare accuracy results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty SRH View Post
    BA Bore, can you run HS-6 and a 420gr LFN PB boolit thru your Quick-Loads for .480 Ruger and see what it says please.
    Shoot me the specs on the boolit. OAL and seating depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABore View Post
    Shoot me the specs on the boolit. OAL and seating depth.
    OAL length of the loaded cartridge is 1.750" OAL of the boolit is .950" Nose to crimp is .480" So the amount of boolit in the case is .470"
    Thank you

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