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    What is this thing???

    I came across a bunch of old reloading equipment that my dad had and I have no idea what this is or what it is worth???

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    Alright I get the first guess on this it seems.

    Roll crimper for a 12ga.
    I think that big 12 stamped on it means something to do with a 12ga round.
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    It is an Ideal shotgun roll crimping tool from someplace between the turn of the century to probably the 1940's. It rolled the paper edge of the shell inside to hold the card over shot wad in place. Very efficient in its day. They show up periodically on e-bay.
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    Ah, you know your history on that crimper. I remember helping my granddad with that press as late as 1965.

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    Is it worth anything? I would rather sell it to someone who would enjoy it than keep it for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakAttackMan View Post
    Is it worth anything? I would rather sell it to someone who would enjoy it than keep it for myself.
    No idea what it is worth, but I'd love to have it.
    I load w/ hand tools for an NEF single-shot 12, cork and card wads, and I have been wanting to learn the art of roll-crimping.

    You experts out there - would these old tools work w/ plastic shells as well as paper ones?

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    would these old tools work w/ plastic shells as well as paper ones?
    Not an expert...but I have one of those and get mixed results so I rarely use it. Success depends on the thickness and pliability of the plastic it seems to me. Thin and skimpy hulls do better. Cheap Nobel hulls or skivvied Fiocchi hulls seem to do okay. Everything else...well, I'd stick to a modern roll crimp head and a power drill. Actually, it's been awhile since I tried the old crimper, but I packed it away for a reason.

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    As far as what it's worth...ummm... I'd got to someplace like Gunbroker and see (IF)what they sold for. You never know you might get lucky.
    Click to see what I'm doing and have available, this takes you to the VS (Vendor Sponsor) section of the site. Currently..25Rem,30Rem, 32Rem, 35Rem, 257Roberts, 358Win, 338Fed, 357 Herrett, 30 Herrett, 401 Winchester, 300Sav, 221 Fireball, 260Rem, 222Rem, 250 Savage, 8mm Mauser (AKA 8x57), 25-20WCF

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    I bumped into this Youtube this afternoon. This guy uses one of these tools with Fiocchi hulls with good results. Like I said...certain hulls came out okay for me, but never as good as the $11.99 nylon crimp head I got from Precision Reloading. Of the three heads I have, the nylon one works best for me . . However, I can see by this video that with the right technique better crimps might be possible. Perhaps I'll dig my tool out and play some more next weekend .

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    Those old roll crimping tools average $12-$20 on ebay. A times some nut thinks just because it is old and gun related it is worth more and they will start the bid at $99.

    A lot of times they are bundled with a bunch of other old time shotgun reloading hand tools as well, so the pricing varies.

    These roll crimpers are not uncommon, but cool to have on the bench for conversation.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check