How to mess yourself up real quick wth a can of brake cleaner

[johnlaw484]

In california cooking over charcoal causes cancer.

So does spoonin with your bunkie

[Von Dingo]

Does this mean the state of California knows more then the rest of the country?

No, they just get cancer easier..

[para-frame]

LOL,

Any way, I have never came across chlorinated brake cleaner in the wild anywhere I have gone. This particular warning only covers chlorinated brake cleaners which haven't been available for public/non commercial/non professional sale in years, even decades in some areas.

[Katya Mullethov]

chlorinated brake cleaners which haven't been available for public/non commercial/non professional sale in years, even decades in some areas.

I stock ONLY chlorinated .

[Arlin]

I've worked in the refrigeration business for over 40 years. I've had my share of burning freon which will choke the hell out of you but never any serious ill effects from it. I think there is more to this story that what we have been told.

Arlin

[.357MAN]

Arlin, I don't know much about burning freon, but the gas the OP wanted to warn us about is Phosgene, which was created when the guy in the article welded on a part that he used brake cleaner on. Tetrachloroethylene is the culprit, it decomposes into phosgene when heated to 600F. Like other have said phosgene was a chemical weapon used in World War 1.

[Katya Mullethov]

Arlin, I don't know much about burning freon, but the gas the OP wanted to warn us about is Phosgene

Yep , you can make that outta R12 . It'll empty outta bunker full of corpulent TV preppers quicker'n you can spit too .

[.357MAN]

Yep , you can make that outta R12 . It'll empty outta bunker full of corpulent TV preppers quicker'n you can spit too .

So why is Arlin ok if he inhaled phosgene?

[Katya Mullethov]

The dose makes the poison .

[TomBulls]

Nah... It just means the people in California have weaker bodies and are more susceptible to things that the rest of us eat for breakfast!

-thomas

[Longwood]

Nah... It just means the people in California have weaker bodies and are more susceptible to things that the rest of us eat for breakfast!

-thomas

If you are talking abouyt grits,,,,
I am not sure how toxic they are but they are certainly untolerable at my house.
Wait a second,,,,
I believe someone said they make good filler.

[para-frame]

Seems I was wrong (whats new?) more then half of the states restrict or ban chlorinated brake cleaners but it is still available in some states.

[Chicken Thief]

Whell then again, it never ever said "air freshner" on the can anyway!

Dunk Drano down the tube and hold your personal fumehood directly over the fumigation.
No good either?

So :

[Tokarev]

Tetrachloroethylene is the culprit, it decomposes into phosgene when heated to 600F.

302 F.
Not 600!
Don't need oxyacetylene torch, any flame would do.

[MBTcustom]

Thanks for posting this. That is one of the scariest things I have ever read about. What a nightmare! Its a concern of mine as many who are in my line of work have been killed trying to make a living.

[KYCaster]

Thanks for posting this. That is one of the scariest things I have ever read about. What a nightmare! Its a concern of mine as many who are in my line of work have been killed trying to make a living.

Like Josie Wales said to the bounty hunter........"Diein' aint much of a livin', boy."

Lots of things in our homes and shops will do us harm if we're careless...seems like every day I learn of a new threat to my health and well being. It's a wonder we've all survived as long as we have.

Maybe the law makers in California have it right..........every thing causes cancer.

I've decided to quit worrying about it, so for Lent this year I gave up moderation.

Jerry

[Bren R.]

I have to admit I thought about this thread recently and took a few extra minutes to let a chlorinated brake cleaner soaked part dry completely before bringing it near heat.

Bren R.

[Milsurp Junkie]

Phosgene is NOT a nerve agent. It was a chemical warfare agent, but not a nerve agent like Sarin or Tabun. Its mode of action is by decomposing into hydrochloric acid on exposure to water. Thus, people breathing in the gas essentially burned their lungs, which then fills with fluid and death is by pulmonary edema. It is interesting because it smells like musty hay. But by the point you smell it, you are pretty mch at the level that it will kill you.

As an interesting aside, my grandfather fought in WWI for the British. He told me before they had gas masks, they would urinate on a sock and cover their mouth and nose with it and breath through it. The though that ammonia in the urine would render it inert, but it is likely that water would have been just as effective (or ineffective).

[Bren R.]

The high pH in urine (well, relatively high) was used to counter chlorine gas attacks.

And besides... water has a better use in hydration. Urine is otherwise just expelled.

Bren R.

[LeadBrain]

Good reminder to pay attention and have good ventilation! Thanks for posting!