in the venerable 45-70 ?
I just got one (45-70) and have only tried a couple different powders
tried Varget w/a 325 gr Accurate Molds boolit
and my favorite so far is IMR 3031 w/440 gr. Hoch bullet
in the venerable 45-70 ?
I just got one (45-70) and have only tried a couple different powders
tried Varget w/a 325 gr Accurate Molds boolit
and my favorite so far is IMR 3031 w/440 gr. Hoch bullet
Hit em'hard
hit em'often
40 of 3031 with a 460420 going 1500 fps You can shoot a bunch of them without too much pain.
I forgot to add that I also use a tuff of dacron. It makes a difference.
Last edited by crabo; 09-29-2011 at 12:38 AM.
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Black Powder followed by 5744, 4831,3031 and 4895. I would say that 80% are BP loads and most of the rest are 5744.
crabo just listed my exact favorite load. It's a pure joy to shoot and it's magic against big wildlife. I also load 30 of 4198 w/ a touch of dacron for my friend. It, too, has always been a one shot stopper.
I shoot far more loads with 24 gr of 2400 and a 460420 plain base. Gives about 1350 and good accuracy. Very easy on my shoulder. That will be my deer load this year too.
The 45-70 isn't very fussy about powder. My Guide gun responds favorably to H4198 extreme, although I use just about every powder I own in it. Bullseye and Hs-6 for roundballs, to Unique and 2400 for deer and hog whithout alot of recoil. 38 grains of 4198 behind a plain base 405 is the load both my wife and I like to split boulders with.
In my TDs and Siamese Mauser with cast bullets;
Smokeless; Bullseye for my 275 gr bullet loads, 2400 and 4759 for my 300 gr GC'd loads and 4895 for the 385 -510 gr loads PB'd or GC'd.
BP; COEX Cartridge for my target TD.
Jacketed bullets; 4759 for the 300 and 400 gr J bullets. RL7 with 400 gr Barnes SPs in the Siamese for 2300 fps.
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5744 and AA2495. Will use 4893 or 3031 if the other two are not available.
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IMR 3031. Have used it for over 30yrs. Only other powder I use for .45-70 is H322, which makes a good water buffalo load that is NOT kind to the gun.
Reloader7 - bar none for me... From trap-door to barn burner in one bottle and inexpensively. Use it for my .45 Colt Carbine loads too.
I use H322 with the Ranch Dog 460-350GC , Ranch Dog 460-425GC , BRP 462-465GC and the BallistiCast 462-550GC .
Used to use XMP5744 with the two Ranch Dog bullets .
Parker's , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines
ffg and my favourite filler is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also ffg!
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Working with pistol ammo (9mm, 38/357 & 45 ACP), Bullseye is my choice.
However, I found a SCRAMMING deal on AA #7.
Testing on the stated calibers is now underway.
Acc 4064 for 30-30,IMR4350 not to bad either. 800x, 4756, and herco for slugs
I did say black but I am also partial to ADI 2209 in my 3006. That was a powder that goes back with me for a long way. It is equivalent to the 4350 powders and is sold as Hodgson's 4350 in the States I think. 748 in my 222 and 223s was always good as well.
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"Slap some bacon on a biscuit and let's go! We're burnin' daylight! " - Will Anderson (John Wayne) "The Cowboys."
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Psycholigist to Sniper; 'What did you feel when you shot the felon Sargeant?'
Sniper to Psycholigist; 'Recoil Ma'am.'
From my Irish Ancestors: "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was."
If limited to only ONE powder, then I'll have to go with Unique. Very cost effective. Makes tackdriver mild loads. Can, go up a bit to make a decent hunting load but the range is limited. However, Rx7 has been a great powder for me over 45+ years in the 45-70.
In my short barreled Marlin GG Unique burns clean and leaves little residue. Rx7 will leave some powder zombies indicating an incomplete burn. But for standard power, it is the powder I'll use for reaching out and hitting hard to knock critters off their feet.
And of course, there is ffg, the powder of all those that came before us! The blast, the smoke, the stink.....oh yeah, I do love the good old stuff!
Ok, you got me, I simply can't use just one powder...
Wade
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |