Cooking 50/50 mos/beeswax

[HDS]

I've been cooking up a batch here of almost one quart but it seems no matter what I do the consistency doesn't get any loose than that of a cream. I'm not sure how much heat I am supposed to add to this before it gets to whatever temperature I need it to be for that. With a consistency like this it would be good I suppose for pouring into a lubrisizer and use in such a contraption, but I am not sure its that optimal for pan lubing.

Do I just need more heat, or would another recipe suit pan lubing better?

[Ben]

What is MOS ?

Can you get access to these components in Finland ?

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=81031

[HDS]

MOS grease, kinda stuff you put in wheel bearings, it's Glen Fryxells recipe.

[HDS]

What is MOS ?

Can you get access to these components in Finland ?

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=81031

These two, probably not:

30% Red, Tacky Lucas High Temp Grease
10% Johnson's Paste Wax

[Ben]

Ok, I didn't know if you could or not ?
That recipe will certainly make some fine lube....

[HDS]

Right, but the 50/50 stuff then, not of use unless I get a lubrisizer? Eventually I will get a star some day...

[HDS]

Managed to find Lucas Red "N" Tacky in Finland BTW, so if I could find an alternative to the wax I could do that recipe, maybe the beeswax I already got.... How well does it flow when heated? Water like consistency would be nice for pan lubing.

[cajun shooter]

Beeswax flows great when heated and is the base used in a majority of our lube recipes. A touch of Lanolin is also great for barrels. Look at the lube section of this forum.

[HDS]

I got several pounds of beeswax actually. Bought some anhydrous lanolin off ebay last night. Gearing up to make Felix lube instead.

Poured the 50/50 lube I got last night in a pan and broke it into cakes today, it looks like nice lube, but not usable for pan lubing. So thats a bit of a let down, didn't see anywhere anything being mentioned of this so maybe I did something wrong, but I dunno what that could be. I suppose I will just have to pack it in plastic bags for a few years until I get a lubrisizer.

[shastaboat]

My lube to 2500 fps is 50% beesway and 50% lithium based high speed, high temp wheel bearing grease. This grease has a clear red color to it. Purchased at Kragens/O'reilly Auto parts in 1lb canister. I just heat it until it is all melted and in total liquid form. Then let it cool. It can be poored into a sizer/luber if allowed to cool some. It also works good with cake cutter lubing. I use it for all cast bullet loads.

[HDS]

Maybe its the brand of MOS grease I used then. The grease I used is all black and sticky like heck. I don't know if there could be any difference with the beeswax I used, I made sure with a scale that I had 50/50 of each.

[HDS]

Right... Started experimenting, heated up some of the blocks of the cooled cake and threw in paraffin oil and a bottle of lee liquid alox and even more beeswax. Got the proper consistency when hot this time. Cooling right now to see what kinda result I'm getting.

I'm really just throwing stuff into the mix without a clue

[fryboy]

keeping notes helps for later , personally for me i find the 50/50 a bit soft and use a bit more wax or some stearic acid to harden it up a bit , most any grease works ( vaseline is a common one ) softer mixes do work but perhaps best with the kake kutter approach or as stated the lubrisizer , i use a small container and test pan lube a few with new batches ( while the larger pot is still simmering ) the small container lets one do a test easy enough and then add ingredients as needed

[HDS]

Yeah I got some rough notes. The recipe as currently standing is fine when warm, not solid enough when cold, considering adding small quantities of carnauba.

[buyobuyo]

These two, probably not:

30% Red, Tacky Lucas High Temp Grease
10% Johnson's Paste Wax

Johnson's Paste Wax is a wood furniture cleaner/polish.

It is 10-30% Paraffin Wax, 5-10% Carnuba Wax and the remainder is solvents that cookout/evaporate.

If you can't find it, you maybe able to make an adequate substitute by mixing paraffin wax and carnuba wax.

[Char-Gar]

Glen used a microwave and a 1 quart Pyrex measuring cut to melt and blend his lube, until one day the Pyrex broke and dumped a big load of goo in his microwave. Now he uses the old double boiler trick.

If you get the stuff to turn into a liquid and then stir it a bit, that is all it takes.

[HDS]

I use chemical glassware made from boron silicate, I got the stuff to turn liquid but never liquid enough, stood and stirred for half an hour.