Hi
I'm just starting to paper patch for a breach loader and was a little curios how you apply your lube to the bullet.
Regards Math
Hi
I'm just starting to paper patch for a breach loader and was a little curios how you apply your lube to the bullet.
Regards Math
How about not? If you wipe between shots, no lube is needed. if you really want to use lube, you either use your finger to put some lube on the patch, and/or use a lube cookie under the bullet, sandwiched between 2 wads.
Lube is not applied to paper patched bullets.
Some put a little lube on the outside of the paper patch, but most don't.
If you want a supply of lube in your load for keeping the BP fouling soft, a grease cookie or a lubed felt wad can be positioned right under the bullet.
CM
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Ok no lube on the patch. How will wads work whit a hollow base bullets ? I'm sort of afraid that they will stick in the cavity and unbalans the bullet. And then there is the problem with applying the same amount of lube under the bullet every time
Math
If you extrude, melt, roll, or otherwise produce a flat layer of lube with a uniform thickness, you can easily 'cookie cut' discs of lube directly into the case being reloaded. So much for the 'same amount' thing.
Some of the paper patched bullet designs have a cup base, but none that I know of are 'hollow based' bullets.
The 'cup' is a shallow depression which gets (mainly) filled with folded paper during the patching process.
It is very common to see wads used with these bullets.
CM
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Hello
Thanks for your ideas and input. After reading the answers i see that i should have given more info in my original post, i'll try and make up for that now, sorry for the trouble.
The rifle is a M-1851 made for the Swedish navy, and uses no cases, hence my question about applying the same amount of lube everytime. In the good old days a paper cartride was used. i have found very little info on how that cartridge was made.
Here is a photo of the rifle and the bullets i'm using.
Regards Math
Some of the guys that shoot long range muzzle loaders use a shallow dish with a layer or two of felt fabric soaked with liquid lube. They roll the patched bullet immediatly before loadind. Some use jojoba oil, but the real serious ones use sperm oil.
I believe in Paul Matthews book on paper patching he used several types of lube rubbed onto the paper. He advised that the lube not soak into the paper which would make it translucent.
I sometimes rub SPG on the paper.
Or...do it the easy way:
SeatingLubeCookies by RMulhern, on Flickr
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how thick of a lube cookie are you using there? are you just taking a charged case with a wad and stamping them out?
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SPG is a brand name of black power cartirge lube
SPG are the initials of the originator of the lube, Steve P. Garby
Nanuck, not trying to speak for Mr Mulhern, as he has a lot more experience than I do. But he probably has a .030 or .060 overpowder wad seated, therefore no powder spillage. And no, there is no air space from the powder column to the bottom of the seated bullet.
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Rick,
You do forget an essential detail - the man is using a capping breechloader with paper cartridges, so he doesn't have a case to cut lube cookies... I believe that a lubed felt wad would be the way to go in such a case, just like with the Westley Richards Monkeytail: There's a monkeytail forum on the british militaria board, I believe there would be some gents willing and able to help you.
Math I shoot a '59 Sharps with grease grouve slugs. The casting has a rebated base simular to a gas check base. I turned a dowel rod to the size of the base and roll paper to make a cylinder the bullet will slip fit into. Most of the time I seat the slug into the bore and fill the chamber with powder.
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Joel 3:10
Yes there is cases laying on the table but they are for my .425 WR
Right now i'm trying to find a good load before making paper cartridges.
What i really was interested in knowing was if lube was applyed to the paper or not. I have been using "Loading and shooting paper patch bullets"by Randolph.S.Wright as my guide so far but that book only covers how to load cartridges, and so far i understand it he does not apply lube to the patch.
Happy shooting
Math
I've been around this game long enough now to understand that one mans' gravy could very well be...another mans' poison!
If you want lube on the patch don't use so much that it will migrate to the interior; powdered graphite will suffice also!
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |