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    Quote Originally Posted by TDC View Post
    I'm glad there are notorious trolls among us.

    They remind all of us N frame lovers our appreciation of this successful "N" design is well deserved and that success threatens their desire to try to influence others.

    We must realize we are unintentionally "rattling the cages" of lame detractors and that we have long ago won the antiquated debates they'd like to inflame.

    Long live the N frame.... and long live the Redhawk, too...
    And long live the Dan Wesson

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    I agree that the 27 in 5" is my favorite of the ones I own, and one of the best that S & W ever offered. I'm thinking of aquiring another 5 incher and having it converted to .44 special. Have seen a few 28's done so, but never a 5 inch 27. Anyone ever handled a 27 5" conveted to the special?

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    Can someone do a thread on K frames?

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    Thumbs up Model 27 to 44Spec conversion!

    Yes-
    I did this very thing just two years ago- had too many 357mag revolvers (is there such a thing?), and was tired of waiting and waiting to find a model 24 44Spec.
    Took the 4" model 27, shipped it off to Hamilton Bowen in TN- six weeks later he returns the finest 44Spec revolver I've ever seen. Almost everyone who sees it at the range is puzzled by the signature checkering on the topstrap and barrel, and can't figure out the 44Spec chambering. Man, oh Man, is this thing accurate!!!! Bowen does a fantastic job, and his action job has to be seen to believe!
    If you do it, you will be HAPPY!
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    Did you have the barrel remarked as to caliber? Let me guess - About a $1000? I have always admired Ham Bowens work. He has to be one of the premeir pistol smiths on the planet right now. I have heard good things about Jim Stroh (? spelling) as well. It's bound to happen. Thanks for rhe reply.

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    So what's the difference between an N frame and a Redhawk? I see even on sale the Smiths are twice the money as Rugers. I like the Model 27, but it's kind of heavy. Maybe a .38, but it's kind of a puny caliber.

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    A couple of old Pre-War .38/44 Outdoorsman N-frames. They love the IDEAL 358429 @ 1100fps !
    A thread about N-frames needs more photos !

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    GLL said
    A thread about N-frames needs more photos !
    I agree! K-frames too. What is a 38/44? Why the different numbers? How do you like reloading and shooting the round?

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    Did someone say more "N" pictures?

    "Hindsight is always so much more accurate than foresight, but well considered foresight so much more valuable." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Photos of the gunmakers artistry!

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    Oh lordy - you guys ought to be ashamed of yourself for those pictures... I confess that I have looked at those pictures with...
    (to steal a Jimmy Carter phrase)

    Lust in my heart.

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    Frank:

    The S&W .38/44 Outdoorsman (and the Heavy Duty) is a .38 Special revolver that is built on the .44 HE N-frame. The loads are "warm" such that a 358429 will reach 1100fps.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for these and own "several" ! I am especially interested in the Pre-War and early Post-War long-action versions !

    These are Post-War 1940's versions.

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    GLL said
    The S&W .38/44 Outdoorsman (and the Heavy Duty) is a .38 Special revolver that is built on the .44 HE N-frame.
    I get it. Lke the Ruger 22/45.

    GLL said
    The loads are "warm" such that a 358429 will reach 1100fps.
    I noticed some of the classic .38's S&W sells are +P. I read that .38 loads are 770 fps and .38 +P is 1,000 fps. So you are right. That load is probably warm.

    GLL said
    I have a soft spot in my heart for these and own "several" ! I am especially interested in the Pre-War and early Post-War long-action versions !

    These are Post-War 1940's versions.
    You have good taste in firearms. Thank you for sharing your collection of the outdoorsman .38/44's.

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    I've owned several N frames in the past, very briefly a 4" 629, a 29-2 that my oldest son just inherited in July and a bunch chambered in .41 Mag. Still have a model 58 and looking for a 6" or 8.375" M57/657 when I get home.

    29-2 6.5" 44 Mag


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    Fairly new N-frame owner here!

    29-3 3"


    629-1 2.5"

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    My 28-2 wearing the cokes that the seller threw in after the deal was done...


    My 625-8 USPSA gun...


    And a not very good picture of my Performance Center 627-5 fresh from the ICORE East Coast Regional...

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    What a beautiful and superbly functional group of various N frames shown on this thread.

    I thought some of you stainless fans would like to see this 8 3/8" version of the first 629s produced. The 629s were the first N frame stainless revolvers made by S&W. They were only produced with the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder for a very short time as S&W was eliminating those features at that time. Among collectors, these P&R "no dash" early 629's are among the most sought after "modern" S&W pistols. If you have one call me.....

    Thirty years later it's difficult to find S&Ws that aren't stainless...

    "Hindsight is always so much more accurate than foresight, but well considered foresight so much more valuable." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    I am rather fond of my model 57 6". But if was to take up Steel Smashing again I sure would not pick that brand of Wesson out of the storage box. Fit & Finish has little value when the revolver will not stand up to a constant heavy pounding. I will take a Dan Wesson any day first and last.
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    Yeah, but they look good.
    And shoot good.
    And I guess they could be repaired if you wear one out.
    This one's barely used.



    PS: I misstated earlier, it's a 3".

    PPS: I gotta try that seamless white background setup, looks good.

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