I seen this in another thread and they talked about doing a 50/50 mix. Would you do it by weight or volume? I can see if it works it would be a good cheap alternative to commercial lube.
I seen this in another thread and they talked about doing a 50/50 mix. Would you do it by weight or volume? I can see if it works it would be a good cheap alternative to commercial lube.
It won't matter; it's not a precise measure and they should be about the same density. Good luck.
I'll give it a try, Thanks
I only hope you realise that the wax ring for toilets isn`t beeswax.Robert
I tried this a few years back at a members sugestion, toilet ring anyways, don't remember other ingredients may have been Crisco. As I remember it formed hard fouling near chamber of my inline, hard enough I couldn't seat bullet after a couple shots. I ended up thowing it out with the trash.
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It works well for shotgun wads, I have fired over 100 rds in a day using it. I also use it on mini bullets, but it is soft and gooy. In a rifle, I have used it for patch lube when I did not have deer or mutton tallow. I don't load anything heavy except the 40 silly wet gun, generaly one grain per caliber, ie 50 grains in a 50 cal.
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So if I find ones that are bees wax that would be ok then? I just don't want to screw up my 586.
dont fire them near anyone will smell like burger king fries
Have you ever replaced a toilet? If so then you know that a a pure beeswax toilet ring would be far too hard and brittle. It has other stuff in there, who knows what it is. I just replaced one of mine and the ring didn't look anything like the beeswax I have bought from any vendor.
The one I used smelled like gun grease, so I'm guessing petro based.
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the current theory is that most of them manufactured of late are made with "slack wax" which is whatever they can manufacture them the cheapest for , i do believe in some ways it still does work for a lube , it works in pearl lube ( but at 1/3 ratio ) and will work in smokeless lubes , there may be old stock or some small company's offering out on the sales floor somewhere , if the label states beeswax then it should be at the minimum a mix with beeswax ( truth in advertising and all that ), i seem to recall replacing a few old ones that were beeswax and also finding cloth rope/mesh type gaskets inside the wax ring
The last Toilet ring I bought did not look or smelled like beeswax but it sure smelled better than the one it replaced !!!
At $0.99 at WalMart I bet it isn't bees wax to cheap>
Frank G.
I posted this in a different thread earlier. I have used a 50/50 mixture of the petroleum based toilet rings and canning wax. I add just enough STP to get the consistency that I want. Ususally about 3-4 ounces. Fairly hard at home temp and melts around 135F. For my limited use, it seems OK. But I am only a rookie.
For the most part these "wax" rings are a grease, a very sticky silicone base I think. You can look up the MSDS (Manufacturer's Safety Data sheet). If I'm contemplating using an over-the-plumbing/auto parts/Home Depot-counter product for a bullet lube, I always look up the MSDS first. It at lease gives you an idea of what you may be facing after you pull the trigger.
I have always stayed away from Petrol based products. Real Bees-wax and olive oil have worked for me for decades. Hot soapy water, a couple of patches and I'm good to go.
Regards,
Timbo
The rings were made of beeswax at one time but as everything else the process was made cheaper. Look in the sticky section at LASC for several lube receipes.
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Has anyone looked up the MSDS on a toilet ring? I'm sure it would tell what the ring is made of...
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Each producer has their own formula. You will have to include a name brand to get their MSDS.
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