Al, What about producing pin#3 with a little more meat around the outside diameter of the nose - similar to what you've done with #2, but just a shallow cone shaped dimple in the nose. (depth just as you have shown, but a ring of meat around outside edge of nose). I'd be interested in a set of both #2 and #3. Could also use pins like this in the 314-129. Gives us lots more options. This is a crowd that loves options.