a question to all you swagers

[mike in co]

gentlemen,
i have over 700 200 gr 40 cal fmj fn bullets that do not cycle well in my 10mm.
is it possible /does any one have a 40 cal pointing die that would allow the nose to be reformed to a smaller fn ? no big deal if it makes the bullet longer.
suggestions/ideas ??

thanks
mike in co

[BT Sniper]

YEP! Anyone with the CH 40 cal swage dies would make short work of your project. That is all it would take is one push in the final form die and you would be good to go. Could probably even turn them into HPs if you like too.

I may be willing to help you out if no one else wishes to but I have a few pending customer orders to attend to first.

BT

[mike in co]

can't go with hp as its a fmj( open base).
but i'd love to ship you a box and see what can be done
or ??

thanks
mike in co

[BT Sniper]

Reform them backwords they could become HPs Pretty positive it could be done though I have not tried it. But yes a FMJ can be reformed for you and still be a FMJ.

[BT Sniper]

Mike,

I got a little time let's fix these bullets of yours!

BT

[mike in co]

today i was able to(finally!!) load the bullets that had been reformed to a round nose.


the bad news is it did not help.

in rapid fire the gun still allows a bullet nose to drive straight forward into the bottom of the feed ramp and stop the gun.

thanks for your help..the gun either goes back to EAA for repair, or returned....
they want me to pay shipping both ways for a gun that never worked from day one.
not gonna happen

we will know tommorrow.

mike in co

[sargenv]

I have a question.. how long are you seating the bullets? I find that the shorter the cartridge is, the less likely (in my Para and Sig anyway) it will feed positively. I load them as long as the magazine allows and they feed a lot better this way.

[mike in co]

I have a question.. how long are you seating the bullets? I find that the shorter the cartridge is, the less likely (in my Para and Sig anyway) it will feed positively. I load them as long as the magazine allows and they feed a lot better this way.

we have tried all sorts f stuff...lenght, bullet nose shape....the gun sucks in 10mm.....

as a 10lite( shooting 40's in a 10) its about 95%...with an occassional jam.

i did 6th place last week with 2 jams in one stage shooting 40's...been shooting 40's in it for a month now.

[BT Sniper]

Dang! Thats to bad. Sounds like the gun is the problem. Hope you are able to get it figured out.

Still have the left over bullets of yours. Let me know what you would like done with them. I'll send them back. Maybe we can work up a trade in nickle 40 S&W brass for my shipping cost and time.

BT

[mike in co]

Dang! Thats to bad. Sounds like the gun is the problem. Hope you are able to get it figured out.

Still have the left over bullets of yours. Let me know what you would like done with them. I'll send them back. Maybe we can work up a trade in nickle 40 S&W brass for my shipping cost and time.

BT

i have 380, 9mm., 38, 357 sig(nickle), 40, and 45 on a regular basis.....no nickle 40.

mike

[DukeInFlorida]

Brian, I have a TON of nickle plated 40 S&W brass.

I could use one of those serrated nose punches for the nifty HP's I have seen you make.

PM me with what you'd like for trade.

[Bwana]

Mike,
I have had a Witness .45 for over fifteen years and I think I know what the problem is.
When you fire the 10mm loads the heavy weight of the 200 gr bullets cause the rounds to tip down (dive) at the nose in the mag. When the slide returns the rounds are still in the nose low position and present an improper angle to feed correctly.
To use these bullets I suggest you get 10% plus mag springs from Wolffe at Gunsprings.com.
These will resist the diving of the rounds. One of the problems with the 10mm in the EAA/Witness is the light slide weight which makes for high slide velocity. You need a heavier spring to compensate and this just increases slide velocity. If you go to a lighter spring with the same loads you risk frame battering, not good.
So, that's my solution; stronger mag springs.

[scrapcan]

Bwana has made the suggestion I would make. I think you might try an aftermarket mag spring and follower.

Dos it do it with all of you magazines? Is this the large frame gun or the small frame?

this has already likely been checked but did you look to make sure the mag spring is in the proper orientation? My springfield p9 in 9mm had this issue when I got it and it was found the spring was in upside down. On my springfield which is a tanfoglio cz75b clone there is a top and bottom to the mag spring. top of spring has a slope where bottom has less of a slope.

[sargenv]

Hmm.. how about extractor tension? Sometimes if the tension on the rear of the case is too great, it could cause it to nose dive and act like it's the front of the bullet and not the rear.. at least I've run into that with 1911's sometimes.

[mike in co]

i have a thread on pistols on this issue.....and thier warrantee policy on not paying frieght.

mike in co