357 Max as a rifle cartridge ?

[wolfe28]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I needed an idea on where to focus my currently limited reloading and shooting time.

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[jeff223]

its been a long time since ive been signed in here.i saw this thread and i like talking about the 357max.

22grains of w296 under a 190 grain Ranch Dog gives these kind of speeds and thats out of a 15 inch barrel


I shot a number of deer with the Ranch Dog boolit and it works great on them.if you dont have time to cast and want a real good 158grain hunting bullet you all should try the 158grain Hornady xtp flat nose,it puts deer down very fast and I have pushed them well past the 2000 fps range

[part_timer]

I've had good luck with 20gr H110 and a 215 SWC on deer. Also 16gr H110 with the same boolit in a dan wesson. One of the guys I hunt with is having fantastic luck with RL7 in a handi rifle and jacketed 158's

[Martini Sportco]

Hi all,
I'm toying with an idea of building up a little Shutzen / Off hand, Black powder rifle for 100 and 200 yd.
I have the opportunity to pick up a little Low Wall reasonably cheap but will need a new barrel.

So I was looking around on the Forums and spotted this thread on the 357 Max.
I think the calibre is about right but not sure on case capacity for BP, I'm guessing about 30.0 grns FFF, which would send a 200+ grn bullet down range well enough. The bullet will be breach seated.
Of course the rifle could be used with smokeless too.

Just wondering what twist rate is being used. Any help appreciated.

Then there's the .357/.44 Bain and Davis.???? Anyone got any info on this one.

Thanks all, M S.

[quilbilly]

My T/C Carbine in 357 Max has a twist rate of 1/14". It has shot well any boolit I have tried from a 150 RN plain base to the 204Gr RFGC.

[justashooter]

Stevens created a variety of 32-35 caliber black and semi-smokeless cartridges in 1890-1900 period for similar purpose. some of them are detailed in Cartridges of the World, obsolete section. unfortunately, i do not have a copy handy. 32-30 comes to mind.

35-30 maynard is also similar in capacity to a 357 maximum, but used in weaker actions.

[Artful]

Twist is normally 1 in 14 inches, case capacity is normally 34 grains of water

[Martini Sportco]

Hi all,
I realise this is an old thread but am very interested in this topic.
I am toying with an idea of building a Shutzen / Off hand, type of rifle for 100 and 200 yd competition.
Here's the catch...... for black powder use.

I know there are plenty of BP calibers out there, I've got, or had most of them at some stage.
This is what will hopefully be, a fun little project, bucket list thing if you like, that works.
I like the 35 cal, obviously it's in between the normal, 32 and 38.

Others to consider I guess are.... Necked down .38/55 - 357. 44 Mag / 357.

Just wondering if anyone here has experience with any of these calibers,... twist rates, bullet length and weight, case capacity etc.

Cheers, Ian in Oz.

[Nobade]

357 max makes an excellent black powder cartridge. It should be a good choice for schutzen competition, very light recoil and accurate in a properly chambered barrel.

[Rafe Covington]

Never used a 357 Max with black powder, have been shooting black powder in a 20 in encore barrel in. 44-1.6 (445 case) for a while. It's been fun using a 200 grain cast bullet. I can not see why .357 Max would not work well also. JMHO

Rafe

[Martini Sportco]

Thanks for the replies guys,
Must be getting doddery, didn't realise I'd put two posts up. hahaha.

Beginning to think the 357 Max will be the go.
Or 38/55 - 357. shall we call it 35/45.

Cheers, Ian from Oz.