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    GET A RESPIRATOR.
    The acetone & MEK are listed as irritants, not toxic. You need a really good mask to filter the fumes.
    Whatever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedeeze View Post
    The initial cost is whats preventing me from diving into the hi-tek system, that and to some degree the commitment to one color of 24k-35k pills. If the the red-copper is close to what actual fmj looks then I can probably live with that. Can anyone post a pic of their red-copper coating?
    Here ya go.
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    You can change the darkness of the coating by baking longer.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popper View Post
    The acetone & MEK are listed as irritants, not toxic. You need a really good mask to filter the fumes.
    Exactly. Long time ago we washes hands with acetone. After fixing fiberglass boats. Had no masks either.
    And I am not dead yet. Maybe!

    What about lead fumes while casting, sizing and shooting?

    I am casting outside with the wind behind my back blowing from me towards the pot.

    This acetone is just about nothing if You think of the lead and all those kids with three heads....

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    Quote Originally Posted by piglet View Post
    Exactly. Long time ago we washes hands with acetone. After fixing fiberglass boats. Had no masks either.
    And I am not dead yet. Maybe!

    What about lead fumes while casting, sizing and shooting?

    I am casting outside with the wind behind my back blowing from me towards the pot.

    This acetone is just about nothing if You think of the lead and all those kids with three heads....
    Nothing wrong with a little contact high....Muahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip62 View Post
    Nothing wrong with a little contact high....Muahahahahahaha
    Riiight. That's why I mentioned the respirator. Just using the stuff in a bucket or some such will give you a headache. Using the stuff in a cement mixer will make the boolits blue, and you purple.

    Imagine 3 grown men, two of us old enough to "know better" trying to devise a way to coat bullets (this was about a year and a half ago) absentmindedly looking into the mixer to see how the process was going, immediately looking at each other and saying "Damn I'm hungry...Taco Bell anyone?"

    I don't think the Taco Bells in that area are used to grown men cruising through the drive-thru in a Volvo ordering 3 dozen tacos on a Tuesday night....Ahh the memories.
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    hehehehehe!

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    Ha... Did someone say "munchies"
    Hooroo.
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    BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! to the good old days

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    OK guys. http://www.dow.com/productsafety/finder/acetone.htm And you will pay really big $$ for an efficient respirator. Now if you breathe enough to displace the O2 you should be breathing, you could turn blue, but the paper bag will probably fall off first.
    Whatever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Here ya go.
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    You can change the darkness of the coating by baking longer.
    Thanks T!

    From the photo, it looks like it is too red, does it look somewhat like real copper in person?

    I saw a website (http://www.hrbc.com.au/) that sells bullets there in Oz and they say they are using "HY TEK" coatings. From the image they have, it looks very close to real fmj, I wonder if their "HY TEK" is the same as our HI-TEK here, if so, I wonder which one hrbc is using for their "Copper Hawkes".

    Here is one of their pics, but after color correction (white balance correction), it looks more like tarnished copper. Here is the corrected image:

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    And the image from the website is attached here:
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    Pffft, GUN-VIOLENCE indeed!!! Please! Less focus on my GUNS and more on society's VIOLENCE.

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    The red copper coating looks a lot like the old copper-coated (more like copper-washed) lead projectiles we used to find on Super-X .357 Mag bullets back in the late '70's and early '80's, before the "J-Word" projectiles became the standard for handguns...
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    The red/copper of HRBC copperhawks is very very close to the colour I'm getting.

    The colour is not what I'd call "looks like jacketed".

    Have a look at Topscore projectiles website.

    http://www.topscore.com.au/
    Hooroo.
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    Ok got the oven, got the the bullets cast, got the HI-TEK enroute, got the acetone and Trev just down the road.

    Let the games begin!

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    I cast and coated some Lee 45 230RN TL tonight. Fantastic to cast and coats great. Cooked the first coat tonight and will cook the second tomorrow. Load them up and fire them on Sunday.
    The Lee .357 and .358 sizer dies arrived today as well.

    I find I'm casting Just to have something to coat. Can't get enough of the HI-TEK Supercoat.
    Now for those that were asking about Rilfe load coated with HI-TEK Supercoat...

    My Buddy has done some recent trials with a 303 was with 92:6:2 alloy, which was coated with the Dark Green coating he is using.

    The bullet is a 165gr Bevel Base RN sized to 312 and used 10 grains of ADI powder 2205.
    Fired 15 rounds, and chronographed it around 1900ft/sec.

    He also tried the same alloyed/projectile, and sized same as above, but used 15 grains of powder instead.
    Fired 25 rounds in same gun, and it was chronographed at 2300ft/sec.
    Inspection of barrel only had gun powder residue as a deposit in both cases, which wiped out with a pull though cloth type cleaner.

    Accuracy at 100 Yards was 1.28" (measured) from a sand bag rest for 5 shots of the 10 grains powder load.
    The 15 Gr powder load grouped a tad tighter at 1.26" at 100 yards.
    I asked if He has tried it in a 223, But he hasn't got one.
    Hooroo.
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    That would be great to ditch the gas check! Nice job!

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    Trevor, how many 30 caliber rifle bullets would you say you could coat with 1 Liter of HI-TEK?
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    My Buddy thinks that he should be able to get about between 30 to 35 thousand...yes thousand per litre.
    I know that Topscore Projectiles gets about 40 thousand per litre of 9mm 125gr Conicals.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    My Buddy thinks that he should be able to get about between 30 to 35 thousand...yes thousand per litre.
    I know that Topscore Projectiles gets about 40 thousand per litre of 9mm 125gr Conicals.
    Interesting. Do you know if there will there be any issues with long term storage? I got some Moly Resin (spray on firearms finish) a while back and found that it supposedly expired within a couple of years. Being able to coat 30k with a liter is great, but pointless if it doesn't have a long shelf life since I can't shoot that much in a short amount of time.

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    I believe it will store fine if kept in original containers in a cool place.

    I store mine in a small refridgerator in my shed. I give it an hour or so to come to room temp before decanting and mixing. The mixed coating has been stored for over a week at room temp in sealed bottle with no issues. Just shake the hell out of it before use.
    Hooroo.
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    Yeah, Baby. Coat away. It is so bloody easy. We should have been doing this years ago rather than pissing around with sticky lube.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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