Boy do i need help!

[sergeant69]

FINALLY got my lube in had awhile to use the old LAM11 again. stuck in a stick of hollow speed green, placed a lightly pre lubed cast .44 250 gr. SWC, lowered the handle and lightly rotated the top screw until i felt resistance, tightened some more, and raised the handle. LUBE EVERYWHERE. top of boolit to the bottom. did the sensible thing and read the instructions off the net. says to decrease the depth of seating by raising part L. i have raised part L until it is as high as it will go (against part K), raised the bar, part N as high as it will go and i still am getting lube all over the boolit. i have run 2 thru it w/out tightening the top screw until the boolits are coming out dry, then very lightly, barely tightening the top screw again (yes the boolit is already in the sizing die when i do this), and the lube still covers the boolit almost to the tip. i took out the die and it says .428 on the top of it. the top punch is part of the original set up but when i ordered the die and remember confirming it was for this die. been a long day and i am too tired and disgusted to continue this tonight. what am i doing wrong?? THANKS john

[waksupi]

John, make sure you hold the ram down on the bullet firmly as you add the lube. Sometimes it will creep on you if not held down. Hope this helps.

[lwknight]

Was it a bevel base boolit?
Those are the pits to deal with.

[Buckshot]

.............The ejector pin stop should almost be able to keep you from running the boolit into the die far enough to get ANY lube if it's all the way up. If you're getting lube out of the bottom of the die also, it could be a too small ejector pin.

.............Buckshot

[WHITETAIL]

John, The best way to start is to take a few pics.
Then post them.
I am sure someone has had the same problem.

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

Sounds to me like maybe someone enlarged the sizing die, and lube coming up around your boolits.

I'd take the die out and see if your boolit will fall through it . . . if it is not tight, in other words not sizing, it will let the lube up past it.

What size are your boolits dropping at?

I have also found that hot days and soft lube ends up being messier . . .

Here is what my instructions say:

[winelover]

FINALLY got my lube in had awhile to use the old LAM11 again. stuck in a stick of hollow speed green, placed a lightly pre lubed cast .44 250 gr. SWC, lowered the handle and lightly rotated the top screw until i felt resistance, tightened some more, and raised the handle. LUBE EVERYWHERE. top of boolit to the bottom. did the sensible thing and read the instructions off the net. says to decrease the depth of seating by raising part L. i have raised part L until it is as high as it will go (against part K), raised the bar, part N as high as it will go and i still am getting lube all over the boolit. i have run 2 thru it w/out tightening the top screw until the boolits are coming out dry, then very lightly, barely tightening the top screw again (yes the boolit is already in the sizing die when i do this), and the lube still covers the boolit almost to the tip. i took out the die and it says .428 on the top of it. the top punch is part of the original set up but when i ordered the die and remember confirming it was for this die. been a long day and i am too tired and disgusted to continue this tonight. what am i doing wrong?? THANKS john

I experienced the same problem with the Lyman 429667 (240 gr RNFP) Cowboy bullet and a Lyman sizer die in my Lam II. No matter how much I adjusted the ejector rod (J), the lube wouldn't stay in the lube grooves. I temporarly fixed the problem by using a brass washer between the ejector rod (L) and the bullet ejector screw. By doing this, I was able to increase the length of the ejector rod and get a properly lubed bullet. If you try this method, make sure you use brass or copper for a spacer, so as not to ruin the threads on the ejector screw. Never had this issue before, when I used only RCBS sizers in my Lam II. I'm thinking it may be that the Lyman sizers have two rows of lube holes in the die body versus only one row in the RCBS die body. If I had a lathe, I would make a slightly longer ejector rod and solve any future problems of this sort. I guess I could try plugging one row of lube holes in the Lyman die but I probably will just buy a RCBS sizer.

Winelover

[Calamity Jake]

Take the die out of the luber and in the upper most lube holes drive in #4 lead shot to plug them then reinstall the die and readjust for proper groove filling.
Some will say you don't have to do this with this type luber but in some cases you do.

[sergeant69]

Was it a bevel base boolit?
Those are the pits to deal with.

no, its a FB

[sergeant69]

SUBJECT TO BE REVISITED....I HOPE! gotta get ready for the hurricane for now. again. laters.

[mdi]

And they say pan lubing is a pain!

[sergeant69]

.............The ejector pin stop should almost be able to keep you from running the boolit into the die far enough to get ANY lube if it's all the way up. If you're getting lube out of the bottom of the die also, it could be a too small ejector pin.

.............Buckshot

the ejector PIN STOP (part N) is like 1" below the bottom of the ejector pin when parts K and L are screwed up all the way topwards. theres no way it could limit the travel downwards of the boolit being lubed. so.............WHAT NOW?? HELP! AND THANKS FOR THE HELP!

[sergeant69]

ADD ON..........when the boolit is being lubed the ejector pin free falls until the head rests against the frame (where part K is) but of course on the top of the frame not the bottom where K is. clear as mud?

[fryboy]

i took the lock rod nut ( k ) off for some boolits , on my old lyman i installed it on the top

[montana_charlie]

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[sergeant69]

Take the die out of the luber and in the upper most lube holes drive in #4 lead shot to plug them then reinstall the die and readjust for proper groove filling.
Some will say you don't have to do this with this type luber but in some cases you do.

guess i will have to try that next. or else just buy a star and be done w/the problems but dam i hate to do that for the small amt. of casting/lubing i do. maybe i'll have a longer ejector rod made.

[94Doug]

Is there heat in the mix here? I had this problem with my LAMII when I first started with a hard lube and heater... turns out the adjustment was waaaay to high. Lots of lube everywhere too.

d

[sergeant69]

Is there heat in the mix here? I had this problem with my LAMII when I first started with a hard lube and heater... turns out the adjustment was waaaay to high. Lots of lube everywhere too.

d

97deg and 85% humidity is all.

[D Crockett]

I got so tired of messing with my lam2 and cleaning lube of of bullets where it was not supposed to be that I did go out and buy a star machine and have not regretted also the lam2 paid for over 1/2 of the star well worth the money I spent D Crockett

[garandsrus]

sergeant69,

You can adjust part "N" so that it is higher and the part "J" hits the stop much sooner. This will also limit the downward travel of "J".

John