moderate load data for Lee slugs???

[JIMinPHX]

I'm thinking about getting one of those Lee 12 ga slug molds. I was wondering if anyone had any reduced recoil load data for them. Maybe something in the 900-1,100fps range?

Thanks,
Jim

[mac1911]

I used Alliant greendot powder load data for 1oz. I used the data for 1200fps with the componants I have. worked well for hole punching @ 50yards.

I liked green dot because I had it on hand and the wads and primers to match the load data.
Also I can increase the fps with the load data and still have low preasure compared to red dot,clays,claydot,promo ect ect. Also you dont need a lot of grains as some of the hunting load powders use.

my current alliant data load runs about 8600psi........check out the data @ alliant web site

[JIMinPHX]

Thanks, I'll take a look.

[GeneT]

The mould came with some load data down to around 1000 fps, IIRC. I've cast up about 50, but haven't loaded them yet - I'll be looking for the same sort of thing.

GsT

[JIMinPHX]

GeneT,
When you get a chance, I'd really appreciate it if you could post that data here so that I can take a look at it before I go out & buy a mold.

Thanks,
Jim

[GeneT]

Well, my recollection was incorrect...

The two lightest loads (1 oz slug)are:

Shell / Primer / Wad/Powder/Charge/Vel
Fed GM/209A/FED12S3/Universal/28.0gr/1450fps - edited, thanks VdoMemorie!
Rem Premier/209/WAA12SL/HS6/36.0gr./1450fps

Those chargers are listed as max though - I'm sure they could be backed off a bit - I'll try to find this post and post back with my results.

GsT

[SuperBlazingSabots]

Greetings GeneT, the first load of Universal should be 28 grains instead of 38 grains, too Hot!
Ajay
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[JIMinPHX]

Thanks for taking the time to post that. It's a little hot for what I want to do though. I was looking for something that the wife could shoot without rearranging her shoulder. She's a bit on the frail side.

In the past, I had been told that with shotguns, you load a recipe exactly as written & don't deviate at all. You are saying that these loads are listed as Max. Does that mean that there is some wiggle room on the powder charge that lets you go down a little? If so, how much?

Most of the recipes that I see so far are using components that I don't have, so I'm going to need to go out & buy just about everything if I decide to start doing this. I was sort of hoping to stumble onto a recipe that uses Unique, Winchester 209 primers, Winchester wads & AA hulls. I guess that may be asking a lot.

[JIMinPHX]

Greetings GeneT, the first load of Universal should be 28 grains instead of 38 grains, too Hot!
Ajay
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Good Catch.

Thank You.

[SuperBlazingSabots]

Hello Jim
You can use Win. hulls, Win 209 primer, Win AA or Red wad. For a mild load you can start with 22 grains of Unique for your wife and raise it up 1/2 gr at a time to 28/29 grains for yourself to get 1400 fps. Nothing wrong with Unique powder as its the one powder that performs well with shotgun, pistol and rifle loads! If I had to choose just one powder for all three it would be Unique!

Be on the look out for the Primer Pressure signs


Put a 16 or 20 gauge nitro card below the slug to give it a firm base like in the picture and cut the extra petals off too.
Another good powder is Herco and Blue Dot.
Have a great day.
Ajay
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[JIMinPHX]

Are there other wads that I can use that don't need to be cut?

[GeneT]

I loaded up some 16gr. Clays loads, pink wads, Gold STS hulls, 1oz LEE slugs tonight - should end up being about 1000 fps. I'll test 'em tomorrow. They cycled through the shotgun alright...

GsT

[SuperBlazingSabots]

Good morning Jim, the other wad that you do not need to cut down is Fed. 12S0 you should put a 20 gauge nitro card of .125 inch thickness below the slug.

This is how it fits the slug.
Hope it helps.
Ajay
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[JIMinPHX]

Why are the nitro cards needed? From reading the Lee literature, it sounded like the whole idea of the drive key was that it would dig into the wad a cause it to get a good grip so that if you fired the slug from a rifled barrel, then the spin would get to the slug. Also, where do you buy nitro cards?

[SuperBlazingSabots]

Hello Jim the the nitro cards you can buy from BPI or Circlefly. I buy them from BPI Tel.# 888-273-5623
Jim load lets say 3 shells without nitro card and 3 with nitro card and see which ones work better in your gun and give better accuracy. The Lee slug is wraped around with the shot cup petals and will impart the spin from the rifling to the slug!
Ajay
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[mac1911]

problem with backing down on powder charge is you will start to get inconsistant burns and velocities.

[mac1911]

call alliant for data Unique is a very broad based powder from 410-10g and then some.
Give thwm a call they will help.

so far best wads for me have been winchester pink

[jonblack]

problem with backing down on powder charge is you will start to get inconsistant burns and velocities.

My understanding is that you do not deviate from the manuals when working with shotshell reloading.

jonblack

[mac1911]

jonblack....yes correct you should NOT deviate from published data. Call alliant for more info on your powder and componants

[Storydude]

I have good luck with the 1Oz Lee slugs over a Pink Claybuster wad, with 25G of unique.

Nice solid load that won;t rip your shoulder off.