357mag Bolt action, new on the market

[lmcollins]

Ok guys: lets's get to serious stuff.

Has anyone tried to see if it will handle a 25/20 round. The length seems OK, but the bolt face might need to be slightly bushed, and the extractor built-up.

The next question would be the 256 winchester. My Hornady book says max COAL to be 1.775. I would think it to be the same as a 357 Mag round i.e. 1.590. Someone just posted above that the mag length is 1.650 max. Can we get a couple of dummies of these two rounds to someone with a rifle to give us some "on sight, in person" thoughts on these two grave matters to us tinkerers.

A bolt 25/20 would be neat, and feed anything. Probably the pointer the better. 357 cases are a dime a dozen, and any idiot with a 7/8x14 bolt, a lathe and a set of drills ought to be able to make an intermediate form die. It might take two dies, and an anneal after. Supposedly, 25/20 brass is very fragile. The 256 might be the best bet, and easiest?

Let us hear some thoughts!

Either of these might be better than doing a 25-222 Copperhead. Maybe?

[Leadforbrains]

Gwozdz I am getting good groups with the Lee 125gr FP over W231 in the .38 special. I am also getting good groups with a 160gr FPGC boolit and the 158gr Hornady XTP bullet over 2400 and N110 in the .357 magnum.

[VladViscious]

What is wrong with the Ruger 77 http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...57/models.html


Tanstaafl!

[afish4570]

What is wrong with the Ruger 77 http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...57/models.html


Tanstaafl!

The $969 list makes it too costly for the market in my opinion. A bolt gun should be made so it can shoot longer and heavier boolits at little cost if designed into it. The rotary mag. didn't take that into consideration and is too expensive to change now. Ruger's 357 is the same price a regular Model 77 or All Weather Hawkeye alot of us older guys say, "Why buy a mouse gun when for the same $$$ you could get a 7mm Mag, 3006 etc...." afish4570

[afish4570]

What is wrong with the Ruger 77 http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...57/models.html


Tanstaafl!

If a low cost entry level rifle like most of the large companies are making now. Then it should be possible to make a pistol cal. like a 357 Max. (handle 357 mag. too) and 44 mag. in a 5 shot, blind mag., synthetic stock in an affordable package.....afish4570

[Mk42gunner]

In addition to what afish4570 wrote; the Ruger .357 wasn't around when this thread started.

If it were marketed somewhere close in cost to the basic Savage 110, they would probably sell trainloads of them.

Robert

[Love Life]

Wow!!! Those things jumped up in price!

I bought mine when they first came out and it was $610 all said and done. I had it about 2 months and sold it. The rotary magazine was pain to remove, and it didn't shoot the boolits I wanted it to shoot well in 357 mag, but was minute of rabbit to 100 yds with the Lee 358-125-RF over 5 gr of unique in 38 special cases. I traded it for a couple S&W model 28 revolvers. At that price I wouldn't even consider the rifle.

[felix]

Ruger American Compact is a new rifle with Weaver mount! That would be an automatic buy in any/all pistol calibers I WOULD say! ... felix

[wch]

YES to either or both 357 Maximum and/or 41 Magnum.

[Newtire]

hmmm, 357 mag bolt gun. Depends on the clip. If big boolits could be seated far out and still have it feed, I'd probaby have to get one.

if it could be converted to 357 Max or started out as a 357 Max. Most likely I'd probably try to acquire one.

I am more inclined to go with .357 Max. also.

[Newtire]

Keep that Tin Foil Hat handy Mike. Ya never know.

[BAGTIC]

It was the IMI Timber Wolf. Had one sold it. The gun was okay but the reloading was awkward and I didn't want to fool with it. For all gun manufacturers K.I.S.S. There is no point in making owners learn a whole new drill just so you can claim some kind of novelty.

[BAGTIC]

Bolts are more convenient to operate from the prone position. That may be why they never caught on in the militaries.

[rollmyown]

Anyone got a link to an after market stock they have or like for the Ruger? I'm putting the cart before the horse as I don't have the rifle yet.

[dakota]

It would have to have the ability to handle cast bullets

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

Reasonable price and able to handle long and heavy bullets in .357 max.

[pressonregardless]

Anyone got a link to an after market stock they have or like for the Ruger?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/514...7-44-rs-walnut

[rollmyown]

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/514...7-44-rs-walnut

Thanks, That looks great. The only trouble is Midway does not send overseas, I will try to find one at another seller. Should make a very nice rifle of it.

[flounderman]

Winchester made the 43 in 25-20. I haven't seen one around since I owned one in the 50s

[Randy C]

+ 1 yes I want one