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View Poll Results: 357mag bolt action...would you buy one?

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Thread: 357mag Bolt action, new on the market

  1. #81
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    D.D. Why not just send it to Delta Gunshop/Clearwater Reboring and have them re-bore the existing barrel/rechamber

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    A 357 mag would be nice but a 41 mag would be much better.

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    Good Cheer,

    To my mind, the .357 is at the top of the "light, packing around, general purpose, low recoil rifle/carbine" pyramid. This is the niche that was filled by the .25-20, .32-20 and similar cartridges in past generations.

    While the .41 mag is much more capable, it also has much more recoil with top end loads.

    Robert

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    There was a boy in Salt Lake City in '81 that was chambering Remington 22RF bolt actions for 38Spl wadcutters. Still wish I had gotten one. Reckon there's no reason that some bolt action wouldn't handle just as nice in a 357.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donald duck View Post
    I recently purchasr a Savage Axis, Edge, in .223 and want to have it rebarreled to 7 mm TCU. Who might you recommend??? Want a 22 inch barrel with probably 1 in 9 twist. I have received one quote but would like others. thanks donald duck
    Try Sharp shooters supply.
    I bought a 17remmy barrel for my savage 223 from them a few years ago. Add a barrel nut spanner and a headspace gauge, and you can do the switch yourself.
    That's what I did.
    Sold the barrel, and wrench a couple years ago, after falling out of love with the 17.
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    I remember a pump .357 made in Israel, Wolverine maybe? That was a sweet shooting rifle.

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    How about rebarreling the little Ruger 44 rifle to 44/357 Bain & Davis? Just read about a fellow doing this on another forum and it sounded like a good idea. Do a group buy for dies and short chambered barrels and then pass a reamer and go/no go gauges around for final chambering. One these rifles in 44/357 with a full power load using the Ranch Dog 35 boolit would be a potent little package.

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    Can we say "instant collector"?? I'm guessing it would be just like other limited run firearms..they'd only go up...get one of the first or pay a premium. Yep, I'm in the Max-mode, too.

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    I would probably not buy one until they stopped making them, and then pine away for years, and finally break down and pay out the nose for a beat up one 30 years later. At least that seems to be my track record.
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    Looks like sound logic to me...

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    Here is something to consider when getting a rifle chambered for the .357 Maximum:

    "The SAAMI spec. factory chambers do not support the shank of the bullet as it engraves into the rifling."

    More on this issue (or non-issue) in the link below:

    http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=120

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    Here is an option.
    http://www.oldwestguns.ca/index.php?...ucts&object=35

    http://www.oldwestguns.ca/image_view...=169&image=153

    I prefer the levers though and just bought two Rossi's. .357mag and .44 Mag.

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    Some ask what is the point to having a bolt action , even say the lever action has got it covered . This is my opinion only , no one has a lever action pointed at me

    I shoot my lever in a single shot fashion quite a bit in the winter months from the range house . Normally , I practice while standing and shoot both right handed and left handed . For me a bolt action is easier to load and unload rather than a side eject lever rifle . The top loading lever rifles tend to fling them if you don't catch them and is harder to unload and keep the cases from hitting the concrete . The Marlin and the Browning are plenty accurate and easy to use you betcha . For me using a bolt would be easier .

    Finding a single shot might even fill the bill and I might even go out on a limb and buy a Ruger single shot . A fella had one on the trader page that I almost bought . The chances of Ruger making more for paying customers are unlikely to zilch . T/C could make a carbine like the old "Aristocrat" model but I'm not holding my breath .... to bad , they were nice rifles . Savage could still sell the 219 break open style and if they ever slow down from selling three hundred dollar bolt actions they might . But since they already got things tooled for bolt rifles , it seems reasonable they could at least look at the idea . Anybody know why a Stevens or Savage short action could not work for a rimmed cartridge ?

    It's still light to pack around , easy on the shoulder , hits hard enough for several species of critter , easy to load for and inexpensive if one doesn't load . Perhaps someone who counts the costs of making stuff can compare it to making a Marlin or other lever action and see which is cheaper . But aren't the Stevens bolt actions about the same price as the H&R single shots these days ?

    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsmoke4570 View Post
    I remember a pump .357 made in Israel, Wolverine maybe? That was a sweet shooting rifle.
    Timberwolf,, have one. No, it is not for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45nut View Post
    Timberwolf,, have one. No, it is not for sale.
    Dang...

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    Jack, i built a 357 and 44 mag on a stevens and savage action. they are
    single shots. i replaced the magazine follower with a aluminum ramp and u drop the bullet in and close the bolt. when i first built it i head spaced on the case mouth soroff,
    accuracy was ok but not spectaculr. i then machined the bolt face so the recess
    was a tad less than the rim thickness. of course i had to leave the extractor alone.
    i had to do a little math and make a cutout in the barrel for the extractor .
    now i head space on the rim. 1 in groups at 100 yds now.




    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Stanley View Post
    .make a carbine like the old "Aristocrat" model but .reasonable they could at least look at the idea . Anybody know why a Stevens or Savage short action could not work for a rimmed cartridge ?

    .Jack

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    I think a bolt gun in 357 MAX would be really nice ti have.

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    i have both a 357 mag and max. the problem i,m haveing is with the
    357 sizeing dies don,t size the neck enough and the boolits are loose. i have,nt
    tried the lee factory crimp dies as the bullets are too losse . i hsve been useing 9mm
    sizeing dies and that works to much. when i seat the bullets the case streches
    more on one side and the bullet is not centered in the case. i should get back
    to playing with this thing. some day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbunny View Post
    i have both a 357 mag and max. the problem i,m haveing is with the
    357 sizeing dies don,t size the neck enough and the boolits are loose. i have,nt
    tried the lee factory crimp dies as the bullets are too losse . i hsve been useing 9mm
    sizeing dies and that works to much. when i seat the bullets the case streches
    more on one side and the bullet is not centered in the case. i should get back
    to playing with this thing. some day!!
    Any chnace of getting a pic of the breach end of the barrel?

    And yes, I'd buy a Ruger 77/357 in heartbeat. It'd be great fun to take a revolver and the rifle with a single bag of ammo.

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    i,m assuming the 357 max breach pic on the savage action. my bud has the stevens
    357 mag right now, however here is a pic of my savage 44 mag breach. they were made the same way. my 357 max is on a 98 mouser action. while were on the subject, i had chambered a H&R 357 mag to max and i could not get that thing to
    make 5 shots touching at 100 yds. i blame the thinner brass with loading problems.
    i took the barrel of the H&R and cut the hindge block off ans shortened the barrel
    5/16 of an in for 357 mag and stuck it on martini action and now 5 shots touching at 100 yds.


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