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    Not a whole lot new there as the Rhino powders (RP) were all in the original post, the interesting thing is that they have diversified and are using EI-Neisen for additonal powders.


    Quote Originally Posted by GrocMax View Post
    If you download the Alliant MSDS sheets they reveal some interesting info, on the product name line there is the following for 10X, 15, 19, 22, 25

    "Smokeless powder, RP 12 Reloder® 10X"

    "Smokeless powder, RP 11 Reloder® 15"

    "Smokeless powder, RP 14 Reloder® 19"

    "Smokeless powder, RP 15 Reloder 22"

    "Smokeless powder, RP 25 Reloder® 25"

    For Reloder 17 it says-

    "Smokeless powder, EI-Niesen 145 - Reloder® 17"

    For Reloder 33-

    "Smokeless powder, EI-Niesen 170 - Reloder® 33"

    This is from the Alliant MSDS sheets.
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    Look at the RP number compared to the Alliant number.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiljen View Post
    Not a whole lot new there as the Rhino powders (RP) were all in the original post, the interesting thing is that they have diversified and are using EI-Neisen for additonal powders.

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    I know I'm reviving a zombie thread, but here are a few more I collected from MSDS sheets.

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    Powders from 2009 MSDS sheets (some newer MSDS sheets lack the powder name information due to
    changes in MSDS requirement regulations).
    
    Note that bulk grade versions have wider burn rate specs and can vary significantly from the
    canister grades, which are controlled for burn rate by blending with held back fast or slow 
    lots, as needed to adjust them to within ±3% of their nominal burn rates.
    
         Canister      | Bulk Grade |       Canister         | Canister |      Canister        |
          Grade        |            |        Grade           |  Grade   |       Grade          |
                       | St. Marks  |                        |          |                      |
         Hodgdon       | Mil & OEM  |      Winchester        | Thales   |        IMR           |
    ___________________|__Numbers___|________________________|__(ADI)___|______________________|_
                       |            |                        |          |                      |
    HP-38--------------|-- OBP231 --|- 231 ------------------|----------|----------------------|-
                       |   OBP124   |  AALite (WFL)          |          |                      |
    Titewad            |   OBP132   |                        |          |                      |
    Tightgroup --------|-- OBP242 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|-
                       |   OBP465   |  Super-Handicap (WSH)  |          |                      |
    Longshot           |   OBP473   |                        |          |                      |
    Lil' Gun ----------|-- OBP516 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|-
    Hybrid 100V        |   SHP771   |                        |          |                      |
                       |   SMP224   |  AutoComp              |          |                      |
    -------------------|--- WAA90 --|- WST ------------------|----------|----------------------|-
    H110               |    WC296   |  296                   |          |                      |
    HS-6               |    WC540   |  540                   |          |                      |
    -------------------|--- WC748 --|- 748 ------------------|----------|----------------------|-
    H414               |    WC760   |  760                   |          |                      |
    H335               |    WC844   |                        |          |                      |
    BL-C(2)------------|--- WC846 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|-
    H380               |    WC852   |                        |          |                      |
    US869              |    WC869   |                        |          |                      |
    -------------------|-- WMR780 --|- Supreme 780 ----------|----------|----------------------|-
                       |   WXC170   |  WSF                   |          |                      |
    Clays              |            |                        |  AS30N   |                      |
    International Clays|------------|------------------------|- AS50N --|----------------------|-
    Universal Clays    |            |                        |  AP70N   |                      |
    H4227              |            |                        |  AR2205  |IMR 4227 second source|
    H4198 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2207 -|----------------------|-
    Benchmark          |            |                        |   BM2    |                      |
    H322               |            |                        |  AR2219  |                      |
    -------------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2210 -|- IMR 8208 XBR -------|-
    H4895              |            |                        |  AR2206H |                      |
    Varget             |            |                        |  AR2208  |                      |
    H4350 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2209 -|----------------------|-
    H4831              |            |                        |  AR2213  |                      |
    H4831SC            |            |                        | AR2213SC |                      |
    H1000 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2217 -|----------------------|-
    Retumbo            |            |                        |  AR2225  |                      |
    H50BMG             |            |                        |  AR2218  |                      |
    -------------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2215 -|IMR 4198 second source|
                       |            |                        |  AS25BP  |IMR Trail Boss        |

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    No better person to see here than Uncle Nick. Thank you for the information.
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    Wow. I found this thread looking for RP14. Just a note the earlier xref has the "RWS to norma" powders wrong.

    RP11 = RL-15= Norma 201 (wrong)
    RL-15 = Norma 203b (right)

    I'm not sure about the rest. RP14 is on the MSDS for RL19

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    Ramshot X-terminator and AA2230 look to be identicle from the load data:

    http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-con...ec_1-23-14.pdf

    RAMSHOT X-TERMINATOR30 BARNES VG 26.1 3,687 29.0 4,029 51,560 2.088

    68 HDY HPBT-M 21.3 2,721 23.7 2,977 54,650 2.250

    ACCURATE 2230
    30 BARNES VG 26.1 3,687 29.0 4,029 51,560 2.088
    68 HDY BTHP-M 21.3 2,721 23.7 2,977 54,650 2.250


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    The Hercules era "Keith load" for the 44 Magnum was 22gr 2400/245gr bullet. The load for Alliant's cleaner burning version of 2400 is 20gr powder with the same bullet.
    My chronograph agrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norske View Post
    The Hercules era "Keith load" for the 44 Magnum was 22gr 2400/245gr bullet. The load for Alliant's cleaner burning version of 2400 is 20gr powder with the same bullet.
    My chronograph agrees.
    I have never heard of any changes to 2400. Larry Gibson did tests and came up with no difference between Hercules and Alliant 2400 other than lot to lot variation. He posted the results in this forum. But I have burned over 120 pounds of 2400 and 2 grains is within lot to lot variation if you include the batch that got a 250g Keith to over 1600 fps with 22g in a 6" 629. Shot 3 rounds to make sure it wasn't an error, brass was awfully sticky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richj View Post
    Wow. I found this thread looking for RP14. Just a note the earlier xref has the "RWS to norma" powders wrong.

    RP11 = RL-15= Norma 201 (wrong)
    RL-15 = Norma 203b (right)

    I'm not sure about the rest. RP14 is on the MSDS for RL19
    I have seen some say the older Norma 203 (not b) is Reloder 15. Since I have a lb of it, any cross reference on norma 203?

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    It should be noted that plus or minus 5% does not permit a possible 10% error. The most error allowed is 5%.

    I have not seen a lot of difference between most powder. That includes 2400 and IMR 4350. I shot some of the newer shorter cut and compared it to the old long cut DuPont variety, with a 10 Fps difference in the two.

    The 2400 I have was purchased in 2004 and loads just like it always has. 15 gr in a .357 mag is very doable.

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    I know this is a old post on here,just wanted to post on here in case no one knows that the new SR4756 is Win 572 .that is from a video I watch some time back and that is right from Hodgdon them self that was to come out some time this year from what I understand.Unless someone else have something different on it.
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    Interesting that 572 is the old SR4756.. SR4756 was a bulky powder and 572 is a nice compact ball powder.. so grain for grain, the 572 will pack into a much smaller space than the old SR 4756. It certainly is within the same burn speed.. useful for the sub gauges like 20 and 28.

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