I just loaded some commerical cast 40 cal bullets and had great sucess with it. So why is it that sucess with the 9mm eludes me? Murphy has given me several tips that I have yet to try, but it seems to me that if I followed the same procedure for 9mm as the 40 then it should work. But it doesnt! Really has me fuzz buzzeled! I think the problem with 9mm is the twist rate. Any other ideas out there. Oh, by the way, I have tried everything with the 9mm sized .357, .358, 124 grain commerical cast, 125 grain water dropped ww with tumble lube, same pan lubed, and 147 grain commerical cast, different powder, everything. I have com close using dardas 125 grain bullet with blue dot but still had smearing but it was better than the stripping that I got from the other powders. Any ideas?