.455 Webley "manstopper"

[Operator119]

I use an old RCBS .45 Auto Rim roll crimp seater which has a wadcutter seating plug. I also use the longer 0.87" Mk1 cases from Reed's Custom Ammo, because they reduce bullet jump in the Webley chamber, compared to the shorter Starline, Hornady or Fiocchi Mk2 cases.

Good to know that is an option. Currently I have 100 rounds of the Mk II brass so I was hoping to get something working with that but maybe I can pick up some of the longer Mk I brass to try with this. I'm guessing its gonna take some experimentation either way. I'm just trying to save a little coin by seeing who has the easiest setup and hopefully using some dies that I already have available to me without hardly any modification.

[Outpost75]

Good to know that is an option. Currently I have 100 rounds of the Mk II brass so I was hoping to get something working with that but maybe I can pick up some of the longer Mk I brass to try with this. I'm guessing its gonna take some experimentation either way. I'm just trying to save a little coin by seeing who has the easiest setup and hopefully using some dies that I already have available to me without hardly any modification.

.45 GAP dies will work with Mk2 cases, if you can live with a taper crimp.

[one-eyed fat man]

Ah......swaged, of course. Makes sense and must have been "cutting edge" technology at the time.

The Pritchett bullets for the P53 Enfield musket were swaged. One reason British cartridges were preferred by soldiers on both sides of the Civil War.

[Harry O]

I seem to remember reading in "Handloading" magazine some time ago that shooting the stock standard .45ACP in a Webley was the same as shooting a .455 proof load in it every time you pull the trigger. The .455 was loaded to lower pressures. I have seen a few .455's Webleys (very few), but there seem to be more Colt and S&W 1917's in that caliber, at least around here. At least I know that they could handle .45ACP's without any worry.

[Outpost75]

Rechambering the French Ordnance revolver to .45 ACP, as was sometimes done during WW2, does the same thing, can't upload picture of blown cylinder from my phone, but will try later.

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I seem to remember reading in "Handloading" magazine some time ago that shooting the stock standard .45ACP in a Webley was the same as shooting a .455 proof load in it every time you pull the trigger. The .455 was loaded to lower pressures. I have seen a few .455's Webleys (very few), but there seem to be more Colt and S&W 1917's in that caliber, at least around here. At least I know that they could handle .45ACP's without any worry.

Attachment 233403 Safe .455 load data from Larry Gibson.

[Operator119]

I remember reading that as well. If I had one with a shaved cylinder I'd load it fairly light. But I have an unshaved .455 so I am gonna try an either modify my seating die or use the flat nosed seating die from either my 45LC or 45ACP die set to seat the bullets without deforming them.

[Firehand]

Matt's Bullets makes a hollow-base wadcutter for .45 Colt that shoots quite well in .455. If you had the equipment would be fairly easy to mill a bit of a hollow in the nose.

[nhithaca]

I believe Matt's just says to turn their HBWC around and use a hollow points. They look deadly.

[PB234]

These are worth a look. http://www.buffaloarms.com/455-250-g...f-100-455250hb

This too, an active buy now going on.http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...Base-and-Solid

[SwissShooter]

Lee makes a fine 3 die 445 Webley die set. If you wish to duplicate manstopper performance, just load a hollow base wadcutter backwards. The 455 is rather anemic in today's world. But fun to shoot as recoil is very low.

[photomicftn]

I had Dave Corbin make me an ‘ M’ die set to swage these; basically, it was a HB nose and base punch set, to which I added a 1-E point former to slightly close the resultant huge cup point. Pure lead of course, and tricky to seat without deformation. A fun project back in the day when I had a few Webley .455’s.

[Dutchman]

[ddixie884]

I think Charter should chamber the Bulldog XL in .455. Maybe in .45 Cowboy. .45Colt seems like overkill in a pocket gun. JMHO-YMMV.......

[USSR]

Miha did a group buy on the Webley Mk IV a couple of years ago. I got one and it is an awesome bullet.

Don