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    Mystery mold

    Any idea who made this it measures .450 in dia. & .485 in length.


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    Almost has a home-made look to it

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    Is it a core mold for a swaging procedure? I've seen core molds before, back before lead wire was readily available to be cut into specified lengths.

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    Shotgun slug? Possibly 20 Guage? Designed to drop in a shot wad and use the wad as a sabot?

    Strictly a guess!

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    .450" is too small to fit in a 20ga wad. Definitely looks homemade. I defer to Guesser may be a core mould OR for PP boolits.
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    ............Yup, doesn't look like a production item, especially with the common hardware store type fasteners. It DOES look 'oldish' though and not poorly done either.

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    It appears as tho it might be a home-made copy of the Buffalo Ball-et
    http://www.gunnersden.com/blackpowde...lo-ball-et.gif

    a cross betwixt a roundball and a conical, about 1.5 calibers long. They great in some guns.
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    I'm betting someone made this mould using a drill bit sharpened to rounded point possibly as shunka commented for knurling.

    Looking at the right hand cavity there is a spiral groove and another groove that look like they were left by a drill bit rather than a reamer or cherry.

    Size seems about right to knurl for .45 cal. My smooth boolits grow about 0.003" when knurled.

    Also, as Buckshot mentioned, the fasteners do not look like what is usually on a "commercial" mould.

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    I know you can shoot 45 colt in a .410 shotgun chamber (Handi rifle - snake charmer). I wonder if it was someones slug for a .410 using fiber wads.

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    'Tain't "home-made" or "oldish", it's hand-made, custom, and vintage, worth big money on flea-bay....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBXPilgrim View Post
    I know you can shoot 45 colt in a .410 shotgun chamber (Handi rifle - snake charmer). I wonder if it was someones slug for a .410 using fiber wads.
    410 bore is .410, it would be too big. You can shoot .410 in a 45 colt chamber, not safe the other way around. Not sure it would fit in a 410 hull even if fired in a snake charmer type gun. Billy
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    Quote Originally Posted by HORNET View Post
    'Tain't "home-made" or "oldish", it's hand-made, custom, and vintage, worth big money on flea-bay....
    I don't think something like that would bring big bucks it doesn't have a name?

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    Cap n ball revolver?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMinPHX View Post
    Cap n ball revolver?????
    +1

    conical ball for .44 caliber percussion revolver.....

    ....is my best guess.


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    The cavities look too nicely done and the tip looks too well rounded for a drill bit with the tip re-ground to a ball shape. Ball end mill cutter used in a straight down plunge cut would be my guess as to the cavity cutting method used. Could have been a ball end mill cutter chucked into a drill press with a clamping jig or vise underneath or a real milling machine.

    As to what it was used for - My WAG would be paper patch 45-70 light plinker and small game loads.

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    It may just be the scale/angle of the picture or the funny mushrooms on tonight's pizza but when I compare the apparent size of the cavities to the yardstick at the bottom of the page something doesn't seem to add up to me.

    Not to be insulting here but have you double checked your measurements? The blocks look like they are almost 6" long and the cavities look like they are at least 1-1/4" diameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theperfessor View Post
    It may just be the scale/angle of the picture or the funny mushrooms on tonight's pizza but when I compare the apparent size of the cavities to the yardstick at the bottom of the page something doesn't seem to add up to me.

    Not to be insulting here but have you double checked your measurements? The blocks look like they are almost 6" long and the cavities look like they are at least 1-1/4" diameter.
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    It's the mushrooms!

    Quote Originally Posted by theperfessor View Post
    It may just be the scale/angle of the picture or the funny mushrooms on tonight's pizza but when I compare the apparent size of the cavities to the yardstick at the bottom of the page something doesn't seem to add up to me.

    Not to be insulting here but have you double checked your measurements? The blocks look like they are almost 6" long and the cavities look like they are at least 1-1/4" diameter.
    The yardstick is in the bottom pic, the big yellow box is in the top pic.

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    Ah, The picture is wider than my screen and I didn't scroll to the side to see it was two separate pictures. Mea culpa, mea maximum culpa.

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    Well then isn't theperfessor the observant one!?! I hadn't even noticed.

    Possibly that is a fishing scale with smaller units? Fish are so much bigger that way.

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