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    Quote Originally Posted by 1trapper View Post
    Good morning all. I'm new to this site but am looking forward to the information on hand...
    Question: I have two containers each with 5-8 lbs. of powder. They are from River Valley Ordnance, Harvester, MO. One is RVO-62 and the other in RVO-57.
    Anybody have info on the company, what these powders might be and what they might be used for?
    Any info would be of great help.
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    There might be something here that can help you...IDK

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    Thank you very much!!!

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    A friend of mine has some 20 lb kegs of IMR4895 he bought in the '70s. The kegs are from WW2 and are tar paper sealed. He is offering the powder to me for $15 a lb. Of coarse this is all dependent on opening a keg and inspecting the contents.


    Does this sound like a good deal?

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    IMO, $15 a pound is a terrible deal. Now where does that friend of yours live.

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    I get your drift...

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    Doesn't sound safe to me,please have him send it to me for proper disposal
    Quote Originally Posted by tbx-4 View Post
    A friend of mine has some 20 lb kegs of IMR4895 he bought in the '70s. The kegs are from WW2 and are tar paper sealed. He is offering the powder to me for $15 a lb. Of coarse this is all dependent on opening a keg and inspecting the contents.


    Does this sound like a good deal?
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    American Reloading just sent me a long list of powders in bulk lots:

    Powder Blowout.


    If you are receiving this message, then you are an American Reloading customer and in that event, you may or may not know that we bought a great new Shipping and Receiving building and a new Warehouse facility as well so WE ARE MOVING to a much much better situation.
    As we empty our current warehouses we will be offering some special deals to our clients only via email so keep your eyes peeled for great deals.
    What we have today are deals on Powder. Here are the rules:

    1. Lots WILL NOT BE separated or broken down into smaller quantities. The lots are offered as they are and they are at great prices
    2. ALL ORDERS MUST BE PLACED BY EMAIL. Please write POWDER in the subject line and let us know which lots you are interested in and we’ll call you RIGHT AWAY. We will get inundated with emails so we will call back in the order in which they are received.
    3. These are separated into 3 categories. READ THE DESCRIPTIONS CAREFULLY PLEASE.
    4. We WILL combine orders to save you on shipping – just ask when you call.

    Thank you very much for your business!
    -Jesse Johnson, President and CEO American Reloading, LLC


    The Powder Lots:
    Category 1: New Bulk Powder
    This is Brand New Powder which has been repackaged from drum canisters into HPDE static-free powder jugs which are safe and legal for transport and storage. This powder is the same powder as those you would buy at a sporting goods store BUT they were purchased in big powder drums and re-packaged. It uses the exact same load data as published load data.

    Lot 101A: WC680 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101B: WC680 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101C: WC680 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101D: WC680 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101E: WC680 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101F: WC680 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101G: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101H: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101I: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101J: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101K: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101L: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101M: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101N: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101O: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101P: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101Q: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101R: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101S: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101T: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101U: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101V: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101W: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101X: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101Y: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101Z: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101AA: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101AB: Hodgdon H110 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $448 ($ 14/ LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $498
    Lot 101AC: Namenska NC03 – This is a great flake powder great for 9MM
    (5) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 40 LBS $360($ 9/ LB) Plus $60 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 101AD: Namenska NC03 – This is a great flake powder great for 9MM
    (5) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 40 LBS $360($ 9/ LB) Plus $60 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 101AE: Namenska NC03 – This is a great flake powder great for 9MM
    (5) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 40 LBS $360($ 9/ LB) Plus $60 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $420




    Category 2: Canister Powders at tremendous discounts:
    These are brand new jugs of factory powder with factory labels, just as you would purchase from the shelf of any sporting goods store.


    Lot 201A: Hodgdon CFE PISTOL – (30) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 30 LBS $570 (19$ / LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $630
    Lot 201B: Hodgdon CFE PISTOL – (3) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 24 LBS $456 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $496
    Lot 201C: Hodgdon CFE PISTOL – (3) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 24 LBS $456 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $496
    Lot 201D: Hodgdon CFE 223 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $608 (19$ / LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $658
    Lot 201E: Hodgdon CFE 223 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $608 (19$ / LB) Plus $50 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $658
    Lot 201F: Hodgdon CFE 223 – (2) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 16 LBS $304 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $344
    Lot 201G: Hodgdon H110 – (20) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 20 LBS $380 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 201H: Hodgdon H110 – (2) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 16 LBS $304 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $344
    Lot 201I: Hodgdon Varget – (15) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 15 LBS $285 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $325
    Lot 201J: Hodgdon Varget – (15) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 15 LBS $285 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $325
    Lot 201K: Hodgdon Varget – (15) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 15 LBS $285 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $325
    Lot 201L: Hodgdon Varget – (15) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 15 LBS $285 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $325
    Lot 201M: Hodgdon Varget – (10) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 15 LBS $190 (19$ / LB) Plus $40 flat shipping. GRAND TOTAL: $230
    Lot 201N: IMR 4350 – (19) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 19 LBS $361 (19$/LB Plus $40 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $401
    Lot 201O: IMR 4350 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $576 (18$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $626
    Lot 201P: IMR 4350 – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $576 (18$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $626
    Lot 201Q: Accurate 2230 – (20) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 20 LBS $380 (19$/LB Plus $40 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 201R: Winchester AutoComp – (20) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 20 LBS $380 (19$/LB Plus $40 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 201S: Winchester AutoComp – (20) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 20 LBS $380 (19$/LB Plus $40 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 201T: Accurate 2230 – (20) 1 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 20 LBS $380 (19$/LB Plus $40 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $420
    Lot 201U: Hodgdon Titewad – (4) 8 pound containers brand new unopened:
    All 32 LBS $608 (19$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $658




    Category 3: PULLED POWDERS at tremendous discounts:
    These are PULLED POWDERS meaning these powders were pulled from live ammunition in exact lots and the powder was screened and put in HPDE static-free powder jugs which are safe and legal for transport and storage


    Lot 301A: WC872 – 33 LBS total
    All 33 LBS $198 (6$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $248
    Lot 301B: WC859 – 50 LBS total (50 BMG Powder)
    All 50 LBS $300 (6$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $350
    Lot 301C: WC859 – 50 LBS total (50 BMG Powder)
    All 50 LBS $300 (6$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $350
    Lot 301D: GD 4350 (Very similar to Hodgdon 4350 and IMR 4350 but you’ll need to work up your own
    load data– 34 LBS total
    All 34 LBS $204 (6$/LB Plus $50 flat shipping GRAND TOTAL: $254



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    And I was happy to pay $22 a pound for H110 a few days ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    And I was happy to pay $22 a pound for H110 a few days ago
    Likewise. With an order of two 8 lb jugs (one H110, one TiteGroup) the H110 $18.50 / lb base price goes up to $21.73.

    The final rate below of $15.56 / lb sounds great. The 32# Lot sizes however are probably just too big for 99.9% of end users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Flados View Post
    The 32# Lot sizes however are probably just too big for 99.9% of end users.
    Check the "what powder did you buy today" thread

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    Namenska? I'd take a chance on that but it's recomendation for only 25acp and 9mm makes me think it is uber fast stuff.

    Well, whatever you may have wanted at american reloading is pretty much gone now. I didn't see any of that powder
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    Looking at GIBRASS i am unsure but BR-5 is tempting others still avail not really at this time FEB22

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    Ordered 8 lb of MP501 to experiment with. Near as i can figure is this may be somewhat close to power pro 2000 or power pro 3000 or SHP 763. Wishing to give this a try in a bolt action 6mm ARC. Load data is supposed to be similar to SHP 761 which seems to have no Data to be found, thus far. guessing this is between Reloader 15.5 & Reloader 16

    Was actually similar to a never marketed power pro 3000 on the Ballistic assistant burn rate chart, a stick powder that is fairly bulky. 27 grains will fit in the 6mm arc & will yield just over 2500 from my 22" Pacnor barrel w MOA accuracy at 100 yards. 26.5 grains of this MP501 is yielding just under 2500 FPS with sub MOA accuracy with initial work up.
    Last edited by SDguy; 01-16-2023 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDguy View Post
    Ordered 8 lb of MP501 to experiment with.
    Using PP 2000 / PP 3000 as a burn rate reference seems right according to the info I have. SW Long Rifle also seems pretty close. Using data for slightly faster powders for comparison is generally accepted alternate option. This would be stuff like Ramshot Big Game, Alliant 15 or Accurate 2520. Is this ball or stick?

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    watch the date this powder deal this post is 6 years old!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlezx View Post
    watch the date this powder deal this post is 6 years old!!!!!!!!!
    The thread started years ago, but look at the title. Milsurp availability is poor at the moment, but folks are finding and trying stuff. The topic remains relevant as new Milsurp purchases are made. Getting reports back on use of odd-ball stuff can also be very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Flados View Post
    Using PP 2000 / PP 3000 as a burn rate reference seems right according to the info I have. SW Long Rifle also seems pretty close. Using data for slightly faster powders for comparison is generally accepted alternate option. This would be stuff like Ramshot Big Game, Alliant 15 or Accurate 2520. Is this ball or stick?
    MP501 turned out to be a stick powder Perhaps close or similar to reloader 15.5 / N540. This is per a visual that Johnny's reloader bench offered working up Reloader 15.5 in the 308 / 6mm ARC on youtube where Reloader 15, 15.5 AR comp, Varget, N540 & Reloader 16 are visually compared.

    Visualy this appears similar to the N540 / Reloader 15. & on the Ballistic assistant burn rate chart seems to be closest to Reloader 15.5, a bit slower than the R 15.5 & perhaps less dense.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check